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Dear god, no. This is an abjectly terrible idea. Dems aren't going to win until they stop being the other party of billionaires who are centre-right at best yet claiming to be for the working man. Come on, learn something from this election. We want a Sanders or AOC, not this milquetoast rejection of the full scope of the Overton window.

This is going to be a crazy four years, and to suggest we come out on the other side wanting a return to the same bullshit that held wages and lifestyles back for, by then, 50 years, is a failure to read the room. No one wants what the Democratic party currently offers, and I don't see her suddenly becoming progressive. We don't need another president on the cusp of getting Social Security when elected.

We want that for ourselves after paying into the system for so long, but that's not going to happen. Find a new standard-bearer or die. Learn. Adapt. Run on real change, not the incremental shit that was resoundingly rejected and so generously provided us with the shitshow we're about to endure. Voters stay home when you do that, and here we are.

I mean, how many CEOs need to be killed before anyone gets the message that what they're offering has the current panache of liver and onions? Doesn't matter how well it's prepared; the world has moved on, and whoever gets the nomination in '28 needs to as well. Harris is not that candidate.

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[-] Eryn6844@beehaw.org 7 points 1 day ago

hahahaha! god their even more stupid than I thought. maybe they should go look for other candidates. Seems like half the country doesn't want a women as president. They sure as heck don't want a person of color either.

[-] chetradley@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Nah, the bigot vote isn't nearly as important as the fact that people are sick of establishment politicians. People want change and they see that in Trump but not in Harris.

[-] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don’t think that’s the reason. He’s already served as president and his kid is the RNC co-chair. He is the immediate family of the co-chair of the republican establishment.

[-] chetradley@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't disagree with what you're saying, but does the average American voter see it this way, or do they judge him based on his demeanor and the things he says?

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 15 hours ago

But he sometimes says what people want to hear in the middle of an incoherent rant. Trying to cover him the first time was ... about as one might expect. Now, it's just depressing.

[-] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

Gender or race had nothing to do with her losing, she's a right wing POS posing as a progressive

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 7 points 1 day ago

Alternate take: She was told to move to the right by advisors. Politics is nasty business.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 19 hours ago

Her pattern this campaign was the same as her pattern in the primary, start out as a mainstream progressive talking about changing the system and fighting Republicans, then after getting phone calls from donors and listening to establishment advisors abandon it all for overly restrictive benefit programs and empty words. Almost every time she said something good she'd walk it back over the next week.

This doesn't mean she should try again but finally buck her advisors and be her true self. Her deference to the sensibilities of rich donors is part of who she is.

[-] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago
[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

and AGs are not cops. Stop repeating the propaganda designed for morons to repeat ad nauseum

[-] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

She locked up people, she was a fucking cop

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

You have quite the hole in your understanding of how this system works. No.

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 6 points 1 day ago

The editor in me has so much to say about that.

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