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War is here? We have 350 million plus people. I don't see how you can call the occasional incident "war". If it was violence targeted at non-conservatives even once every few days I could see your point maybe. But as violent and awful as America is, I think the vast majority of our violence is not political in nature.
I will probably get downvoted for saying it, but this post and the response here reminds me a lot of things you'd see on r/conservative in that people take an isolated hateful incident and extrapolate to say that this is the start of a civil war and we need to mount an equally forceful response. Yes this is a tragedy, unhinged, and terroristic behavior, but, as someone from a deeply red state who has some ultra-conservative family, 0 of them are even remotely close to wanting to fight and die over pride flags.
I only say this because the sentiment that "there is no other way out of this but civil war" is not anywhere close to true, in my mind, and only serves to stop coherent discussion.
Perfectly said. I'm with you. I do think it's a distinct possibility at some point but this news story is not a part of some inevitably imminent civil war. If nothing else, 99.9% of people are way too comfortable and lazy currently to even attempt to create that sort of chaos. Something to still be watchful about but nothing like some of the comments in this thread are saying.
It is also not at all the appropriate response to hearing about an innocent person being killed. No sympathy or concern or even tact for the victim nor her community nor loved ones— Instead, fantasizing about even more of the same thing happening so you can mentally LARP as a hero. Even if you're right, this is not the place to scream your violence-fantasy slogans.
Interesting that as communities become more radical and more specialized— Not that that's always a bad thing; It's probably a natural part of the memetic processes by which communities evolve— But it's interesting that they also seem to become less and less empathetic at the same time.
Wouldn't be surprised if things did indeed boil over.
Your tone in no way helps the conversation. Bye.