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Pavlov and Shrodinger bumped into each other once.
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Don't get it. Suspect it doesn't actually make sense.
I get the idea, but I don't think it works quite right.
What's the idea?
Pavlov's dog and Shrodinger's cat.
Obviously. But what about them?
That's my interpretation of what they were going for. If there's any deeper meaning behind it, I don't know it.
I'm asking what the joke is. That's the focus here. Because it's presented as a joke. Even though it appears not to be. If you get it, please explain it.
This is why I don't think it's presented well, because that's the only thing I get from it as well.
Yeah i think it has something to do with a cat and dog
This joke combines the concepts associated with Pavlov and Schrödinger, two famous scientists, creating a clever wordplay that also references their respective experiments.
Pavlov: Known for his classical conditioning experiment with dogs. He rang a bell before feeding dogs, conditioning them to salivate whenever they heard the bell.
Schrödinger: Famous for the thought experiment Schrödinger's Cat, where a cat in a box is simultaneously alive and dead until observed. This illustrates a paradox in quantum mechanics about the nature of superposition.
The Joke:
When Pavlov and Schrödinger "bumped into each other," two things happen at once, creating the humor:
Pavlov's reaction: If something unexpected happens (like bumping into someone), the event might "trigger" a conditioned response — such as Pavlov salivating because he’s used to the bell.
Schrödinger's paradox: The joke suggests that before observation, they are both aware and unaware of bumping into each other, akin to Schrödinger's cat being alive and dead.
The Punchline: "It was quite the paradox!"
The joke itself is a paradox because it humorously combines Pavlov's predictable conditioning with Schrödinger's uncertainty, two contradictory ideas.
The wordplay is clever because "paradox" not only describes Schrödinger's cat but also the confusing situation of this fictional encounter.
This reads like a LLM explanation, was it?
Ofc i ain't typing allat
yes
Uhh.. this analysis makes no sense at all. And now OP has admitted that the joke doesn't make sense and doesn't work. Still, just for edification:
There was no conditioned response.
There was no confusion.
It was just chapgpt to help you friend :)
ChatGPT is pretty helpful despite the hate. I've found myself using it quite a bit recently. Situations like these where you don't get a joke are good ones in particular, since it's something you might have struggled to figure out just by Googling before. However, you do need to be able to check the output to gain value from it and that's kind of one of its limitations since you sometimes end up needing to do as much research or work verifying what it tells you as you tried to avoid by using it.
In this case, where it's not so much a question of facts and it's more about interpretation, a simple test of asking yourself "does this make sense?" could have provided a clue for you that chatGPT was struggling here. One of its problems is that it just always tries to be helpful and as a function of how it works that often ends up favouring the production of some kind of response over an accurate response even when it can't really produce an answer. It doesn't actually just magically know everything and if you can't confidently explain the joke to someone else in your own words after reading it's "explanation" then the odds are good that it just fed you nonsense which superficially looked like it must mean something.
In this case it seems, that the biggest problem was that the joke itself didn't entirely make sense on its premise, so there wasn't really a correct answer and chatGPT just tried really hard to conjure one where it didn't really exist.
I knew it didn't make that much sense. I just didn't care lol
You didn't help me, you wasted my time. Pro-tip: be quiet.
How will I ever carry on carrying this burden?
It both makes sense and doesn't at the same time but eventually the punchline might ring a bell.
Being mysterious doesn't help me I'm afraid. Still don't get it. The punchline doesn't make sense and doesn't ring a bell.
The fact that you haven't just explained the joke makes me think you can't because it doesn't work as a joke. Right?
They are doctors who have paradoxical theories (pair of docs) but after some research Pavlov's theory of conditioning is not a paradox so the site I ripped this joke off of may have used the wrong doctor.
Pavlov's dogs and Schrodinger's cat?
There's something there, I think, but it doesn't land as is.
I sat on it for a while and came up with this:
nope, still doesn't work
Some of the cats might be dead due to Shrodinger's paradox.