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Mitch McConnell says Trump win puts Americans in a ‘very dangerous world’
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I think Biden was too moderate on justice, but I'd be hard pressed to think of a more progressive president than him in my lifetime. Since you said you were only happy voting for Obama in 2008, I assume you are similarly disappointed in his performance compared to his campaign, and I can't think of anyone else even in the running. So I don't judge his moderation harshly. A more progressive candidate probably can't win the swing states, and I think Kamala demonstrated that (though racism and misogyny and such also played a role, I'm sure).
As for third party, I did that for years. I think up to 2000, I always voted third party. Obviously did no good, but it was never because I wanted the candidate to win, but as a protest vote against both parties. I always imagined if they wanted my vote, they would have to adopt a platform closer to my personal way of thinking. Instead, Republicans sprinted hard right away from me, so now I've got no one to vote for but Dems.
I have no party loyalty at all (don't even see myself as a Democrat), but I thought Obama was a good leader even if he wasn't everything I wanted. Same with Biden. He doesn't get nearly enough credit for the "soft landing" and one of the lowest inflation rates anywhere and his dedication to student loan relief. But what I really loved about him was he wasn't Trump, and I admired Kamala for the way she also wasn't Trump.
Even if I were still a conservative, I would still vote for a moderate Democrat on that basis. I don't understand why McConnell didn't.
Huh?
I think you're confusing an 81 year old who finally stopped fighting against social change and someone fighting for social change...
And Obama was far from perfect, but waaaaaay more progressive than Joe. Joe was literally bundled with Obama so old white people wouldn't be scared of the young smooth talking Black guy with a progressive campaign.
What logic makes Biden the most progressive president of your life time?
And that's an opinion, if you believe it to be true. I struggle to understand why that means it's enough when it clearly wasn't or trump wouldn't be going back to the White House....
Quick edit:
Lol
What about his dedication to abortion too? Or anything else he promised, barely tried to do, then immediately called voters ignorant for thinking a Dem president with a Dem House and Dem Senate could accomplish anything.
After running a primary campaign focused solely on how only he could get Senate Republicans to vote for the Dem party platform.
Stop giving credit for what they say they want to do, give credit after they do something
What progressive policies did Obama enact besides the completely watered down ACA—that was a Republican plan? He could've pushed for single-payer when the Dems had full control and didn't.
What else did he do? Because I remember him being largely a milquetoast pro-corporate Dem who was about as progressive as Bill Clinton.
He DID push for single payer. It was Joe Lieberman who fucked us over with that, not Obama. As you know, presidents aren't kings and the policies they want to enact must go through Congress.
Oh...
Only accomplishments count now?
Man. Good thing you can only defend Biden or attack everyone else, if you could do both at the same time you might actually have a point
Because Biden's list of accomplishments is pretty much "didn't die in office".
Everything else is shit he "tried" to accomplish
In what world did Kamala not run as a conservative democrat? She talked about her glock more than climate change, sucked up to every Republican willing to be decent for once, and took the stage how many times with Liz Cheney while not allowing even 60 seconds of speech from a pro-Palestine lawmaker or advocate at the DNC, and went hard right on the border. And shit at this point I've probably brain dumped other events that had my jaw on the floor. She spent most of the last month holding hands with as many Republicans as she could, trying to get as many R votes as she could (spoiler alert - it was precious few).
And I'm not even super far left compared to a lot of potential D voters. I voted for her anyhow, but angrily by that point. She killed the motivation of many likely D voters all to rub noses with republicans and conservatives in the most crucial weeks of the campaign. To suck up to the very people who got us to this point in the first place and pretend every last fucking one of them wasn't complicit.
All I can remember now from her campaign:
Edited to add - and that's the last time I cast an angry vote for D. I've done it enough times. They need to get their shit together, or stop pretending they are anything other than corporate owned slightly less evil conservatives compared to R. If I can't feel good about pulling the lever for D next time, I'll pull it for someone else.