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submitted 3 weeks ago by axont@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

So apparently a large-ish contingent of American reactionaries don't think crude oil is a finite resource. They believe the Earth regenerates it at a faster pace than it can be drilled, and this isn't a niche conspiracy theory either. I mentioned it off-hand at work after seeing a random tweet about it, then like 5 of my coworkers all nodded and agreed. One even used the term "abiotic oil."

Is this just cope or what? One of my coworkers literally said, "Well oil is like water, it goes through a cycle and gets replenished." Something about how crude oil is actually made through some kind of geological process, rather than decomposed algae/animal matter from millions of years ago. I think maybe there's evidence of abiotic hydrocarbon gasses existing from various chemical reactions with minerals, but I believe there's never been a convincing source of abiotic petroleum that couldn't also be explained as biological in origin.

They don't actually believe this, do they? It's just a thin kind of security blanket so they don't have to consider the reality of what fossil fuels truly are?

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No lie I was literally taught in school about fossil fuels being from fossils, and it wasn't until more recently as an adult I learned the real science. We don't need reeducation for people...we need straight up education.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I might get in trouble for anti-religious sectarianism for saying this, but people underestimate how much damage US Christianity has done to peoples understanding of reality. I literally just tried to google about the origins of oil, and any of the websites on it that allowed comments were flooded with people commenting things like "WRONG: evolutionists want you to believe that oil is organic and finite so they can keep prices high! Why would organic material be found so far under the crust? Wake up!"

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago

I sincerely hope every here recognized Christian Fascism as being the American 21st century form of fashion and doesn't try to stand up for it as a relgion.

There are a lot of Christian sects in the US that wield or or less political and cultural power, but American Fascism is based in the Christian Fascist sect that grew out of slave state protestantism.

Religious Tolerance and Christian Fascism is very much a "paradox of tolerance" thing. Christian Fascism must be destroyed because it's a threat to everyone and everything else.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

Oh good. I wasn't sure what the consensus was with people here. Good to know I'm not gonna be stepping on toes

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

AmeriKKKan evangelicals are a cancer. Few things aggravate me more than the fact that when Norwegian black metal musicians decided to start burning down churches, they stayed in Norway and torched old pre-Christian "heathen" churches built by Norse pagans. If they could have just come over to the US, they could have had a grand old time with some of the evangelical megachurches out here, many of which aren't built or wired up to code because in spite of somehow being able to afford $2M in real estate, the clergy are still penny-pinching chodes.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

I have had that same thought so many times. The history of church burnings in the US is fraught with race crime history because the KKK and others firebombed black churches because they used them to organize for civil rights.

It would be nice if it was just bored Satanist teens who thought it would be funny if they burned down evangelical mega churches over and over

[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Its worse because he burned the traditional stave churches build by norwegian CHRISTIANS - but since evangelicals think that catholicism is paganism because it preserved some pagan remnants- it was a pagan church in their eyes.

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, fuck me, you're right; the version I always heard was that the stave churches were from before Catholicism spread to Norway. I didn't realize they were mostly medieval construction. And yeah, I grew up Catholic and fucking hated that evangelicals thought that meant I wasn't "Christian."

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

If the site policy is that protective of the intellectual influence of Evangelicalism, the site should be shut down because it has lost the plot.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

I've seen some moments of HB consensus that "religion cannot be a reactionary social force ever, even theoretically, and you must be a reddit atheist idealist for suggesting so"

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