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i can see how this is conceptually a problem, but i struggle to understand why people care about it, as far as my understanding goes, you couldn't find a country without a history of some form of colonialism.
you can go as far backward or as forward as you want, but i think there is always going to be some form of colonialism and conflict in humanity, it's just engraved into the evolutionary history of humanity, as it is in most other forms of life, the primary difference is that we figured out how to make guns so we can shoot at each other instead of fighting more traditionally.
As far as government goes, i don't really know how much of that would be a problem, especially considering that this is the middle east and a lot of middle eastern countries have religion explicitly integrated into the government (at least in under my knowledge). If we're talking about giving rights to people, things get more complicated. And i'm not super familiar with this myself, but it is to my knowledge that non jewish people living in israel have the same rights as jewish people (or broadly similar rights) excluding occupied territories of course.
This is also excluding the extremely high tensions between arab/palestinian people and israeli/jewish people in the region as well, which only makes things more messy and complicated.
i suppose on the surface i'm sort of iffy on the idea of israel, but given the broader context of the middle east, i'm not really sure zionism is any worse than the existing structures in the middle east.