I know we have our Marxist definition and all that, but it seems to be a really pervasive 
, everywhere I go. Some people I've talked to think for instance, all scientists are silver spooned and never worked a day in their life because they don't do construction, or whatever.
How do you argue with people like this? Can you?
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I switch the framing up and simplify it. Often people see it as an income to sweat ratio, and not overall assets and how far you can make assets go.
I can't hide the fact that I do white collar work today pays alright. But I explain that sooner or later my money is going to run out of I stop working, and no matter how much extra I do, even if I managed to crack six figures one day, I still can't stop working. Whereas the ruling class is a small minority of people who can stop working completely, and they will only grow in wealth. They will never die from want or need. Meanwhile, you and I [the person I'm addressing] know that we can't stop working... Because of the implication
(the implication is work or die).
It's a such a glaringly obvious fact that everyone recognizes as a fundamental truth. People might push back by asking about welfare or disability - you can't get these things from voluntarily not working, and it's not a cushy living. Ruling class people can engage in nothing but leisure and many of them are at the level that they couldn't spend all their wealth in their lifetime.
I cap this off with some good eye contact and spell it out "They live in a wholly different reality than we do".
If they get that, you can take some deeper dives.