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All that sort of stuff. I'm not minimizing stuff like Palestine of course, but I don't recall in the seemingly endless 2020-2024 election campaign. I don't really think I heard any sort of real "kitchen table issues". I feel like even the most basic political issues have been obfuscated or ignored. It feels like these very political issues have been removed from the sphere of political discourse.

I don't know what my larger point is, but it feels strange to think that for example I haven't heard a single mention of something like higher education costs for example. This isn’t just a dunk on Democrats either, though it is worth saying “get fucked losers”, but I think since about 2020 I haven’t heard a damn thing about healthcare or housing in a real political way from the big two or the media in general.

Again this isn't to meant to minimize any other real problems either, not trying to "this is more important than that", just saying I haven't political people talk about politics all the while not being able to escape the political dimension

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[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 51 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's pretty much exactly it, if you ever talk to Trump supporters.

Yeah racism, bigotry, etc is their solution; but they mostly care about why groceries are expensive, why rent is expensive, why they can apply for a thousand jobs and get one singular interview for a job that doesn't pay enough for anything. Dems failed to do the bare minimum, acknowledge that the vast majority of people in the US are struggling due to systemic issues. Trump acknowledged that and offered solutions, even if they're horrifying. Even the trans stuff and other "culture war" items are rooted in financial stress.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 50 points 5 months ago

I hate to say it but without any other information the one saying "groceries are too high because the Italians are using magic on the price tags" is acknowledging a problem exists vs the one saying there is no problem

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Even the trans stuff and other "culture war" items are rooted in financial stress.

Yep. We saw this before in Hitler's rise to power too, and we're watching as the libs repeat it

[–] urmums401k@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago

Their disagreement with fascists is about means, not ends, and at the end of the day they are pragmatists.