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LPT: I’m not opening this shit. I’m holding my family close. I’m gonna work my job. I’m gonna exercise and get sleep. I’m gonna stay healthy. I’m gonna vote in 4 years for a better president.
But I’m not going to turn my guts into knots over shit I cannot change. I’m not going to let the noise bury me.
Voting won’t save us. Not trying to throw a wrench in your plans to stay healthy and happy. But true mutual aid is what is most necessary now. Voting is what got us into this mess. Incrementalist politics will not save the climate, will not save us from fascism.
It’s the hard truth that the ownership class has brought to our lives. It’s the logical outcome of capitalism. This is sort of the endgame. We fight now. Relying on voting alone only enables more of the same. We’ve been trying to vote as long as the system has been around. And it’s led us here.
Voting is most likely still part of they way forward. Most of your comment is true, but as long as we have a democracy we have to vote.
Not voting is what got us into this. Harris turnout was lower than Biden's. Trump turnout was about the same as last time. Don't ever tell people not to vote. It's too easy to for us not to take advantage of it.
What's your plan to overthrow the government, in practical terms? How many casualties are acceptable? Do you even have a plan? Or are you just trying to vent?
It’s not about overthrowing the government. Local action to protect vulnerable peoples, mutual aid. The US Govt can’t be “overthrown.” But local enacting of harmful policies can be stopped.
That’s kinda the problem with the US. People can’t just all travel to the centrally located capital. Look at how the republicans have continually tried to “send it back to the states” where they can wash their hands of, say, outlawing abortion. Focus on your area, find mutual aid groups to support those being harmed by these laws. That is how you can effectively fight creeping fascism. They can put down one centrally located demonstration no problem. But they would have a much harder time fighting every town. (Psst This is also good advice in your own town. Spread out, and be more effective. Move around, don’t stay all together. Not when you’re acting, and not when you’re fleeing)
So, basically, an atomized insurgency against local government officials who voted for Trump?
Depends, are you a cop?
No; definitely wary of those who advocate for armed insurgency against governments without a plan, exit strategy, and explicitly outlined intent for governance if successful.
I don't disagree that it'd be a good idea, but also I don't think any revolution has had this. The US, for example, didn't have The Articles of Confederation finalized until November of 1777. The Declaration of Independence, as I'm sure we know, was signed on July 4, 1776. They didn't have things ironed out for more than a year, and that version failed horribly.
If we need a revolution, we shouldn't let having specifics nailed down be a requirement. It's nice to have, and should be considered, but I don't think I know of a revolution that has done so ever.
Sorry but that's bullshit and is harmful.
Voting is quintessential to getting us out of this mess and trying to downplay the power of voting is only beneficial to those currently in power.
There are many actions to take beyond voting, but there is one very specific reason trump is president right now: his people voted.
Fascism is taking over and people are saying that they are planning to do nothing and let evil triumph. If you intend to sit on your ass for the next 4 years, you're in the way of progress.
Its the will of the people my friend. Americ a isnt the good boy you think it to be.
Be sure not to forget to vote in two years for House and senate.
And every single local and state level election.
Next election is in two years. Don't forget midterms. Make sure you're informed about local elections too. They can make more of a difference to you, and they also get people into positions they can move upward from.
Great reminder. Always tracking state and local.
I just can’t allow myself to fall into paralysis over “who” our country actually is. THIS. This is who our country actually is.
That is assuming he doesn't declare himself king, and there is still a vote.
There is NOTHING he can break the we cannot fix! NOTHING!
The barrage of he is a dictator, know it, expect it news is beating the rest into complacency.
I know that preserving my health can be seen as complacency.
I faced down federal troops that were sent to our city after George Floyd — and I felt like a patriot for doing it.
When another George Floyd happens, I will hear about it. And I will be there in the fires.
Just like they vote against putin and orban.
Dark.
Let’s hope the system holds well enough to oust.