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Realistically... How fucked is the US?
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this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
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Some people are going to die-- mostly women. More people are going to have their lives turned upside-down, especially immigrants and ethnic and sexual minorities. Many immigrants, even legal ones, are going to be expelled. Corporations are going to run wild as regulation is abandoned. People are going to be bankrupted by predatory healthcare firms at a much higher rate than now. Every form of corporate pollution, adulteration, cheating and chicanery will be tolerated. The judiciary will be further corrupted. The US will not only withdraw from NATO, but will try to shut it down. Ukraine will be handed to Putin on a platter. Taiwan, the Baltics, Moldova and Poland will be left to fend for themselves. The ethnic cleansing in Gaza will transition even further to a full-scale genocide. Every aspect of government will be handed to corrupt, incompetent fanatics: kakistocracy all the way down. The impartiality of the civil service will be destroyed and the 19th-century spoils system reinstated. Social Security will be privatized and gutted. Obamacare will be eliminated. Congress will hold show trials of Trump's perceived enemies. Terrorist acts and sabotage of critical infrastructure will massively increase, and the clampdowns that follow will be used to further degrade what few rights we still have.
But at least you won't have Kamala's pantsuit to complain about.
All that, and you may have left out the most damaging of all.. Trump will likely pull the US out of Copenhagen, leaving no chance of limiting temps below 2C let alone getting anywhere near 1.5C. The excess deaths from this will likely dwarf COVID.
Honestly, I can't be bothered to worry about the climate 100 years from now when we're going to be attacking (many more) Americans 100 days from now
I can because I care about my kids and potential grandchildren.
I also have family members who will be impacted directly by that.
I can be concerned about stopping both of those negative outcomes. (And would be even if it didn't directly impact my family)
I'm sorry, just my anxiety speaking there. Of course you're right, but if Trump death squads purge the undesirables, nobody will be left to defend the environment, and this is on a shorter time table.
Of all the bullshit that Trump yelled about, I think actual death squads is relatively low on the list of things he would actually be able to accomplish.
For the first year or so he will be too focused on trying to punish the justice system that was so "unfair" to him.
Don't get me wrong, Drumph's second term will be bad for everyone. But the climate issue is going to be truly catastrophic on a scale even he and his cronies can't match. There should be plenty of worry to go around.
Mate it's not 100 years, more like 20. Look at all the extreme weather from this year alone. Most recently with Spain.
100 years from now? Ha, you wish. With Trump in the White House we will speed run through all the tipping points that remain
I apologize for my candor. I'm spiraling a bit.
Why dont you guys start your own " stop the steal"?
Just say that 20 million illegals voted for trump, Kamala won and all this is just big election fraud.
Just wondering.
Why doesn't biden commit some "official acts"
He could. Totally legal thanks to the SCROTUS. But Dems are cowards by nature. They never would. Which is why this outcome was inevitable. If not now, later. We might actually end up being lucky it was Trump and not someone truly competent, but I doubt it.
I think Biden still believes that things can swing back in the midterms or next presidential election. I don't think he realizes that this might have been the last election that was possible to win.
If he does something drastic, he'd probably hand even more popular support to the Republicans in general and to Trump in particular who would play victims as much as they could.
If he does nothing, it might be the end of democracy, not just in the US but in most of the world. But he will have "accepted defeat gracefully" and considering he won't live to see the worst of it, I imagine that's all that matters.
Edit: Just watched his speech. Nope, he thinks this is business as usual.
it wasn't close
police would shoot us
Stolen votes. Russia hacked voting machines to help him
Wait until he mobilizes the military into blue states to force compliance.
bro, i know all that stuff is bad, but have you heard her laugh? we made a solid choice.
(i hope i don't need the /s, but Poe's Law says i probably do)
Probably less than he killed during the pandemic. Unless he uses nukes