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Fear triumphs over hope as Trump wins the presidency – how did it happen?
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this election was lost by single issue voters not showing up.
Some of it is...understandable, albeit self-sabotaging (Gaza, for example,) others are on about abortion or the economy or immigration, taxes.
What they don't see is that there's so many issues a proper government needs to balance; and being a single-issue-voter is exactly what lets this happen. The sad truth is gaza is gonna get royally fucked now. Abortion is gonna get banned and women are gonna die; the economy is going to get wrecked so the oligarchs get to buy up all the cheap shit they want, immigrants are gonna get blamed for all of it; including the taxes because the oligarchs are too busy fucking us to pay their own damn taxes.
Absolutely. Look at the vote totals; not all votes are in, but Trump is actually running a few million behind his 2020 total, while Harris is 15M+ behind what Biden pulled in. Trump doesn't seem to have much more support than last time, but about 1 out of 7 voters that Biden earned did not vote this time.
The ones who did it over Gaza should prepare to be heartbroken when they see what Bibi and Trump do there next year.
I mean I am also interested to see how many votes the fucking Cheneys brought in...that was supposed to be bargain they were making by tacking very hard to the right. If the dems lost on enthusiasm its because they were decidedly not running an enthusiasm campaign.
None, I'm afraid. 5% of Republicans voted for Biden in 2020. 5% voted for Harris in 2024. A centrist waste
I don't know about that. I and most all the others I know were pretty goddamn enthusiastic about Kamala.
Absolutely.
And as for Gaza, they just announced dumping the MoDefense(?) because he wasn’t genocidal enough.
Announced it on election day as hopefully one last fuck-you to Biden.
The people that refused to vote entirely on the basis of the Gaza have effectively shot themselves, and everyone else, in the foot.
There was never a real choice to stop Israel on the ballet, but now with Trump in office, even deescalation is off the cards.
It must be great for these folks to be able to wash their hands of it like Ponchus Pilot, whilst Trump gives Israel the go-ahead to annhilate the people of Gaza.
There are multiple causes.
The main one? Nazis. By about a trillion percent.
You mean, the candidate didn't do her fucking job pandering to the electorate? You mean the democratic machine didn't take their own rhetoric about democracy being threatened seriously enough to make sure to pander to every corner of the electorate to build the broadest possible coalition? You mean that the shitty electioneering consultants fucked up so much that they created a void for Donald Fucking Trump to show up to Michigan and get imams to endorse him as the "peace candidate"?
If you want to blame voters for electing Trump, blame the fucking white trumpist majority. Not the minorities that the Democrats didn't deign to try to woo and win their vote.
I doubt it, unless their single issue was "can we have a real candidate". It's not about one or a few unpopular policies; Harris was just an incompetent, uninspiring corporate slop candidate who made enemies of her voters. I mean look at her campaign, or the lack thereof, and you'll notice she had a much more fundamental problem than pissing off single issue voters. I mean she lost (or is on the way to losing) all swing states. I am very doubtful that this can be attributed to single issue voters.