98

i-cant

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 84 points 5 days ago

The media just assumes Americans are too lazy to bother to listen to what was actually said. Trump is 1,000% correct here and in no way is this some sort of “threat” to Liz Cheney. War hawks like her and John Bolton love to bray for war but it’s not them who are taking bullets.

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

He's correct because he knows how to measure the temperature of the room (aka most Americans, most PEOPLE, do not like or support "war" generically. It has to be repackaged, propagandized, and sometimes done covertly to convince enough people to not care or accept it as necessary and support it)

The problem is (and not saying you did this) people hear him shit on Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney, Bolton, even Biden/Harris, etc. and they leap to this false conclusion that Trump is actually anti-war and not just speaking the words we (almost everyone not invested in Raytheon and shit) want to hear.

In some hyper specific scenarios Trump was less pro-war, but in other ways he was just setting the inevitable conditions for war to break out (for example in Palestine by continuing to encourage a Saudi-Israeli alliance without regard to the fate of Palestinians).

So, again, not saying you said or meant that. But I do hear and see some of the most annoying hoglets online saying that all the time. If Trump was anti-war he wouldn't have just fired Bolton from his job he'd have fired him from a cannon directly into Tehran so they can prosecute him for all his various thousands of crimes. Or send him to Venezuela.

Maybe send Hillary, Pelosi and Biden on a trip to Beijing with a little phone call to Xi while they're en route that he gives his blessing to arrest them and prosecute.

I actually wish Trump would do this shit because not only would it be hilarious and deserved by the "victims" (most of the politicians especially the national level ones deserve this in some way or another) but it would be actually, literally, "anti-war" as in removing the warhawk pieces of shit. He'd probably be the most popular president ever with normal people too and absolutely despised by the media and also the "deep state." Ironic that he claims to want to drain the swamp, yet never even tried. I hope he does try! (Although this is prime "monkey's paw" territory... Bolton lands in Iran around some anti-IRGC dissidents and manages to pull on old CIA adjacent ties in the region to organize them and overthrow the current government there and Bolton is made the new Shah...)

[-] Midnight_Pearl@hexbear.net 30 points 5 days ago

and their assumption is right

this post was submitted on 01 Nov 2024
98 points (99.0% liked)

the_dunk_tank

15911 readers
479 users here now

It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.

Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.

Rule 3: No sectarianism.

Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome

Rule 5: No ableism of any kind (that includes stuff like libt*rd)

Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.

Rule 7: Do not individually target other instances' admins or moderators.

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this. Posts that do not meet this requirement can be posted to !shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml

Rule 9: if you post ironic rage bait im going to make a personal visit to your house to make sure you never make this mistake again

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS