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I am not a teen.

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[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 47 points 4 weeks ago

Dude, there's a difference between romance and full-on extended sex scenes. Fade to black and get on with the plot.

[-] zoostation@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

The sex scenes that most mainstream dramas have traditionally had are brief and not explicit.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

And also not necessary. You don't need to see two people fucking to know they're in love. I assume you don't need to see your friends fucking to understand that they met someone they're really into.

[-] zoostation@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

Nothing is strictly necessary, you can tell instead of show any aspect of a relationship. But if drama is going to show a representative cross section of what human relationships are like, sex will be a part of that like romance and friendship aspects are.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

It's not about how no drama should show sex. It's about how it is regularly getting shoehorned in at the expense of story, character development or run time.

And they don't show a representative cross-section. Almost all sex in mainstream films is heteronormative and done by beautiful people. There are exceptions, but they are few and far between.

When we see a proportionally accurate representation of queer sex screens on our scenes, I'll concede that they're at least showing a broad representation, even if it does ignore all sorts of sexual kinks that would also need to be represented.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 4 weeks ago

What if it's not about love? Sex can be about many things and for the sake of the story.

Saying it only happens as the result of a perfect romance story is puritan and not beneficial to demystifying sex as an act that humans do.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

And yet generally they're romance scenes and not scenes involving lust or rape.

I am not the one saying it. Hollywood is.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 0 points 4 weeks ago

No you are speaking from a specific point.

Poor things had lots of sex, not about love or romance.

Teeth, is rape.

Even Pretty Woman has a sex scene that is about the lust of the main character with no kissing to show it.
There are plenty of examples to prove you wrong as much as you have examples of your point.

You are the one saying it cause you are making a broad statement from your perspective ignoring all that doesn't fit into it. It doesnt make you right to selectively pick your examples because it's the ones you think of and have a problem with you try to apply to the rest of it.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

You listed two indie movies that were not made within the Hollywood system and one example from 1990.

Are you really going to use those to claim that most sex scenes in Hollywood movies and TVs are not about romance?

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 4 weeks ago

Poor Things I watched in an AMC, fuck off with that.

You provided no examples and I provided multiple that are big films that played for massive audiences that sex is used for multiple reasons and not singulary one and gratuitous.

I am not going to list 20 films cause you would deny them just as easily from your place of predetermined correctness.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago

Yes. Indie films get national and international distribution. I'm not sure why you're not aware of that. They are still not made within the Hollywood system.

And you're right, 20 films would not show evidence that most sex scenes in Hollywood films are about romance. I think you're being a little silly about this. Romance stories are one of the most popular types of stories and have been for pretty much all of human history. Stories about rape and lust less so.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 4 weeks ago

Sex has reasons to exist and your issues with it are your own. It's not just about them being not always about romance but about the characters when done right. They are not just about showing love in romance movies.

You bring absolutely nothing to an argument other than your own sense of correct and force others to bring forward their points so you can ignore them. It's, as always, a waste to reply to you.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

When did I ever say it was always about romance?

This was the first comment that started the conversation which you then entered into:

The sex scenes that most mainstream dramas have traditionally had are brief and not explicit.

To which my response was:

And also not necessary. You don’t need to see two people fucking to know they’re in love. I assume you don’t need to see your friends fucking to understand that they met someone they’re really into.

We were talking about mainstream dramas.

That is why I also said:

And yet generally they’re romance scenes and not scenes involving lust or rape.

I am not the one saying it. Hollywood is.

And also why I said:

Are you really going to use those to claim that most sex scenes in Hollywood movies and TV are not about romance?

I mean I don't know how I could have been more clear that I wasn't talking about every case.

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

Uhh... some boob first, then fade to black.

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