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There Is No Precedent for Something Like This in American History
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I don't think this take is entirely fair.
Leftists were claiming Trump was a fascist right at the beginning of his campaign. Immediately, liberals started rejecting this notion due to "reductionism". To liberals, the idea of a fascists rising to become a viable candidate was unthinkable. How could our civil, enlightened system allow for such a candidate? Liberals didn't answer this question, and instead just rejected the idea of rising fascism wholesale.
For years, leftists have been sounding alarm bells about Trumpist fascism, only to be answered by asinine mainstream media pieces denying the claim. And now that liberals have sat on their asses and let fascism fester, theyve started pointing fingers inwards and to the left. Liberals are now blaming American fascism on leftists who refuse to vote for genocide. It could not be more in line with the historical blueprint: fascism takes rise, liberals start casting off leftists first to burn.
Google: trump fascism before:2016-01-01
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/04/why-you-should-stop-calling-donald-trump-a-fascist/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/donald-trump-isnt-a-fascist-hes-a-media-savvy-know-nothing
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/16/opinion/whose-fascism-is-this-anyway.html
https://theweek.com/articles/574097/donald-trump-leading-protofascist-movement
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/12/09/trump-may-be-a-loudmouthed-demagogue-but-is-he-a-fascist/
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-fascist-354690
So I'm not sure whether your comment was coming from a leftists perspective or a liberal one, but to say that liberals knew all along about the impending threat of fascism is wrong. Leftists did, however.
Edit: typo
It was coming from me, because it was plainly obvious to me at the time. Like so glaringly obvious that the articles about how 'Trump isn't a real fascist' were obviously downplaying his obvious fascism by comparing him to 1943 Hitler instead of when Hitler was rising to power.