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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Madbrad200@sh.itjust.works to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

!piracy@lemmy.ml has also been blocked from lemmy.world.

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Lemmy.world has released an official response.

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[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago

Just replace “Lemmy instance” with “blog”, and the answer is obvious.

Actually it's not because there's no 3rd party like there is with Lemmy and especially not a 3rd party that's keeping a cache (copy) of the content.

If you are American then your Lemmy instance is most likely be protected by section 230...

So there's no American users on lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net, or even lemmy.world itself? You'd be very very wrong in that assumption.

or host pirated content in the US, then YMMV.

Aaaand we are back where we started. What is "hosting"? Your lemmy "home", lemmy.today for me, has a cached copy of all the content it's users view. So if I retrieve illegal material my instance has it too and while it's hidden it IS retrievable by both the Instance Operator and other users (if they know how).

So whose door(s) are the cops kicking down in the raid? Mine? Lemmy.Worlds? The one at exploding heads / lemmynsfw / db0zer? All of them?

[-] FlowVoid@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

there's no 3rd party like there is with Lemmy and

3rd parties are not new. All these issues came up when Google, YouTube, etc started storing third party content. They still exist today because they followed the rules.

So there's no American users on lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net, or even lemmy.world itself?

What? No, my point is that if you are American and host an instance, you'll probably be ok. Just like Google and YouTube.

If you are not American and host an instance, then all bets are off. If you are Swiss, then you are probably ok. If you are North Korean, then maybe the police are coming for you right now.

What is "hosting"? Your lemmy "home", lemmy.today for me, has a cached copy of all the content it's users view.

In the US, if you have copyrighted content on your server and the copyright holder says "Get rid of it", then you have to get rid of it. As long as you comply, you'll be ok. That's literally YouTube's business model.

If you refuse, then the cops might come for you. In the US, cops don't go after users who download copyrighted content, only those who make it available to others.

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