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Its funny that people like you believe in this bullshit, and then shit on russians for believing in propoganda as if you dont do the same :)
We don't know the real numbers and likely will not be able to know. When one of the answers has the potential to land you in prison, public polls are pretty useless.
However, if you talk to any anti-war Russians, they will tell you that from their observations the majority support the war and the 70-80% figure is in the right ballpark. Explicit support is just too common. A person who doesn't support the war will probably say that he doesn't want to answer the question or discuss the topic. They won't say that they want Ukraine eradicated.
Every population is susceptible to propaganda. But Russia is on a completely different level. For many, when they see something with their own eyes but the TV says the opposite, they believe the TV. And the TV says blatantly and easily verifiably false things. Such blatant propaganda wouldn't work in the West.
Stop the steal!!
Thats because some anti-war people have unrealistic expectations to what they consider support. Not enough to just not like it. Anything less then beaten up by police and lost yout job on protest is not enough. Hell, before Navalny got to prison there were rumours, every now and then, that he is kremlin project to divide opposition, so the barrier to count as antiwar could be even "actively tortured in prison" for some.
When in reality 75% of the population dont give a fuck and wont care both if putin conquers europe or if they are separated from moscow by 4 new country borders.
Yeah I also heard the American banking system is as strong as ever... 👀. Not like they'd actually tell us and risk a bank run!