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A worse imposition that being murdered by a serial killer?
most anarchisms (again the plurality) have problems with the community imposing choices over individuals.
justification of this or that as "better" or "worse" are personal or communal choices (and it shouldn't surprise you to find an "anarchist community" with despotic tendencies. Unlike theory, flesh degenerates with time 🤷
I think that more anarchisms have problems with individuals (serial killers) imposing harm over other individuals.
Collectivist anarchism doesn't really have a problem with establishing rules, to my understanding.
why go to extremes? Let's say a thief? An alcoholic who gets aggressive every time they're drunk? A man who beats their companion? Or a woman who beats their companion? A dog that shares the same space and bites your friends. A woodchuck in your garden?
"collectivity" may establish rules but people who are sharing the same spaces, with or without similar world views, have no obligations to follow these rules. Solving these kinds of problems while trying to respect anarchist ideals are not as easy as you think.
Communists are more comfortable with these kinds of solutions. One shouldn't confuse the two (while there, of course, is an expansive common ground called anarcho-communism)
Extremes are interesting sanity checks for theories
I'm currently not interested in these examples. You're whataboutising my point.
You have an obligation to follow the rules of a community if you are a part of that community. Also, a community has an obligation to their members. That can include protection.
I'm an anarcho-communist myself so... thanks for the explanation, I guess?
you're welcome
anarcho-communists were always too communist for my anarchist tastes. Let's part ways, nothing would come of our pseudo conversation.
You're entitled to your opinion, but don't confuse that with "most anarchisms", please. Individualist anarchism is fine, but collectivist anarchism makes up a lot of the theoretic field.