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The year 2023 was by far the warmest in human history. Climate extremes now routinely shock in their intensity, with a direct monetary cost that borders on the unfathomable. Over $3 trillion (US) in damages to infrastructure, property, agriculture, and human health have already slammed the world economy this century, owing to extreme weather. That number will likely pale in comparison to what is coming. The World Economic Forum, hardly a hotbed of environmental activists, now reports that global damage from climate change will probably cost some $1.7 trillion to $3.1 trillion (US) per year by 2050, with the lion’s share of the damage borne by the poorest countries in the world.

And yet we fiddle.

In today’s Canada, there is deception, national in scope, coming directly from the right‑wing opposition benches in Ottawa. In 2023, the populist Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre adopted “Axe the tax” as his new mantra and has shaped his federal election campaign around that hackneyed rhyme.

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[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's fine. It encourages everyone to stop carbon

The point of the carbon tax is to stop carbon.

[-] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

But it doesnt work. Grocery stores raise their prices to cover the carbon tax on deliveries, and the consumers pay more. Its not like we can choose to buy only bananas that were delivered by an electric truck.

[-] ahal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

That's why you get a big fat rebate in your chequing account every 3 months. It's meant to offset the rising costs of goods such that end consumers who don't pollute a ton themselves are in fact not carrying the burden.

[-] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Fat? Not enough to offset the increased cost of ... everything. As I said, the biggest polluters just increase their prices and the rest of us pay. There's no incentive for the big dogs to improve, and the rest of us dont have alternatives.

[-] ahal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Sure, that happens in the short term. But it also incentivizes the biggest polluters to reduce polluting as there is now a cost associated with polluting. Maybe a competitor is able to come in with a greener process and thereby undercut the competition. This is like, capitalism 101. It boggles my mind that people can argue that a carbon tax doesn't work.

Also... News flash: the world is fucked and the cost of everything is going to rise no matter what. It's time to get uncomfortable

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago

If it costs you $30 to buy a banana delivered by fossil fuels and $1 to buy a banana that was delivered by sail boat, which would you buy?

[-] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have neither option option. All bananas are delivered to my landlocked town via the same truck.

Bananas are probably a bad example because they are so perishable. They have to be transported in a very controlled environment. Theres no way youre getting bananas from Guatamala to Canada via sailboat and still having them be saleable.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago

How do you think you got bananas before oil?

[-] 4z01235@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago
[-] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I did a bit of googling. Turns out there were refrigerated sailing vessels in the late 1800s.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago

I mean, you can also dehydrate them

[-] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Uhh I dunno if there's any salvaging that hypothetical, lol... But if bananas start costing $1 each, we're in trouble.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 2 points 1 week ago

Things that arent local and are produced with unfair labor must go up in price when those systemic issues are resolved.

[-] Mushroomm@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No...it let's the large companies continue to pollute while passing the penalty off to those who can't afford to move the needle even slightly. This needed protections against this before the tax was levied but good fuckin luck getting legislation against Canada's ogliarchs that actually effect their bottom line

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