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I’ve been having a number of conversations on Hexchan recently trying to make sense of their politics. The most common instance of their hateful hypocrisy I’ve encountered is this constant assurance that they support trans people while immediately attacking and dog piling and trans people who point out that the situation would be much worse under Trump.

The hexchanners who aren’t actively Russian trolls seem to be little more than useful idiots for conservatives, minimizing the damage they do to vulnerable populations and engaging in high school level pettiness and hate.

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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the most terminal case of America brain I've ever seen. Complete myopic focus on American domestic issues as the sole criteria for politics.

I'm unironically and genuinely happy for trans Americans that Biden and the Dems have treated them better than Trump. However, that can't be viewed in isolation of the fact that Biden and the dems are hellbent on ratcheting political tensions with China far higher than with Trump and his trade war. Add to that the unrelenting Dem-led brinksmanship and escalation over Ukraine (which can be traced back to the Maidan Coup which happened on Obama's watch).

Nobody is denying that Trump did all sorts of awful shit when he was in power, but Americans need to at least acknowledge that he wasn't constantly trying to provoke shooting wars with two nuclear great powers at the same time.

Nobody on the left should support Trump but you at least have to recognize that Blue Man is somehow being more of a bloodthirsty warmonger than the evil fascist Red Man you hate so much.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Americans need to at least acknowledge that he wasn't constantly trying to provoke shooting wars with two nuclear great powers at the same time.

That's only because Iran and Palestine aren't nuclear powers. Go look up Trump's policy towards them, you may learn a thing or two.

Trump was also at least as hawkish on eastward NATO expansion and escalating the conflict with Russia to open war with an Amerikan proxy as any other US president in the last 30 years. He broke disarmament treaties, had the Donbass shelled by Ukrainian nazis, moved troops eastwards from Germany to Poland. Let's not even get started on the 2% goal for NATO funding that popped up under Trump and has never gone away. Or how he kicked off a trade war with China. Or the travel ban for the Chinese. How gullible can you be?

I'm sick and tired of a way too vocal minority on this site pretending that Trump is "at least better on foreign policy than the Dems" because you like his aesthetics better than Biden's. First of all, you're doing a liberalism. Secondly, you're doing a lesser evilism. FUCK THAT. Thirdly, you're ignoring that his unilateralism, just like Dubya's before him, isn't actual isolationism, let alone anti-imperialism, but simply works as part of a greater good cop bad cop scheme with the dems in how they treat AmeriKKKas allies abroad. The GOP shits on our governments openly to apply pressure, then after the next electoral circus show the Dems swoop in to "mend relations" again, every good little lib here in Europe loves the USA again (and then the Dems are free to blow up one of our pipelines). You cannot vote your way out of the genocidal foreign policy of the USA. It is bipartisan consensus and you're simply falling for the RepubliKKKan ruse that gives you the illusion of "some amount of choice" on this matter.

Let's not even get me started on your "i support not genociding trans people BUT" reasoning up there. I have a really hard time not to start screaming at you rn, what the actual fuck am i reading there?

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Don't worry, I'm not voting for Trump. Anything Trump did that was "better" was only because he was incompetent.