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U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris has repeatedly claimed that she worked at McDonald's while getting her undergraduate degree in the 1980s. This claim has been reported by multiple reputable news outlets, but aside from Harris' own testimony, there is no independent evidence such as a photo, employment record, or confirmation from a friend or family member to verify the story. Harris has invoked the alleged McDonald's work experience throughout her political career, including in a 2024 presidential campaign ad and during a 2024 appearance on "The Drew Barrymore Show." Other prominent Democrats, such as former President Bill Clinton, have also repeated the anecdote. However, some internet users have challenged the claim, with unverified reports that "McDonald's Corporate sources" have no record of Harris working at their locations. Snopes reached out to Harris' campaign and McDonald's headquarters seeking evidence to corroborate the claim, but as of the report's publication, no such proof has been uncovered. Without tangible evidence to independently confirm or debunk the story, Snopes has rated the claim "Research In Progress" as they continue to investigate.

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[-] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 48 points 2 months ago

Can they actually prove anyone worked at McDonalds that long ago? Aside from saving a pay stub for 40 years I don't see how one could prove or disprove such a thing, I doubt the company keeps records of every employee that far back.

[-] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

She could have worked for a franchisee, too. If that was the case, a SMB owner is definitely not going to have those records after all this time

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Assuming that franchise is still even open. How long does the US gov hold onto tax returns? The IRS says there's usually no need to keep them after 6 years. The best evidence they could find would probably be a coworker that corroborates the story or a photograph of Harris behind the counter working. The photo seems unlikely, and how many coworkers from 30 years ago do you remember?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

The Social Security Administration has a record of every employer that's ever paid you and how much they paid you each year.

They have to for paying out social security.

So I actually tried this recently. Everything is done by paper and mail - even though I visited the office in person, they just mail it onwards.

Also, despite having an expected turnaround of six months officially, it turns out that wait times of multiple years are not uncommon once the request is submitted. So even if Harris submitted a request right now the election would be long over before she would have a copy of the records to prove it either way.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

You're talking about applying.

I'm talking about getting your work history.

Can be done in pretty much the time it takes to sign into the website.

You’re talking about applying.

... for my work history.

Specifically, using SSA-7050-F4, https://www.ssa.gov/forms/ssa-7050.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9TwOUSn34I

I’m talking about getting your work history.

Yes, me too!

Can be done in pretty much the time it takes to sign into the website.

Err, so from https://www.ssa.gov/forms/ssa-7050.html

Your online Statement displays your yearly earnings history free of charge but does not show any employer information.

I.e. you can create the account and view the info online pretty quick but it won't have the proof that you worked at McD back in the 80s or 90s.

[-] norimee@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

I can't think of any way how I could proof the first job I had during school in the late 90's. I was working in a restaurant kitchen, peeling potatoes and stuff. You don't take photos there or keep name tags or other keepsakes. It was a shitty job, you want to forget about it, as soon as you left the premises.

Kamala Harris' job is even longer ago. 40 years is a long time to keep paystubs or something. There were no camera phones back then, no digital footprint you could recreate. That she can't produce any proof, doesn't proof anything.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Social security records.

90s is nothing, a normal person could get it in a month, one of her aids could probably get it in an hour.

Does it matter tho?

Eh, it would be fucked up if she just flat out lied, but it's hard to imagine she would lie about that.

If she proves it tho, they'll make a new stupid claim and if she doesn't prove it they'll use this as evidence that she would prove it if it wasn't true.

[-] odelik@lemmy.today 15 points 2 months ago

How to know when OP is unhinged and divisive:

People are agreeing with givesomefucks, who often gets down voted for unpopular views.

[-] solidgrue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Truly, today is some interesting times.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Damn, you aren't wrong!

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It's like when people think that them walking by causing street lights to go out.

We're pattern recognition machines, and we have certain biases. People don't notice all the streetlights that are working, just the ones that flicker. Either it happens right next to you, or you don't notice.

Chances are you're only looking at usernames when it's really down voted. With the rare exception this time.

I bet if your scrolled thru my post history, you've up voted me more than youve down voted me.

Social security records. 90s is nothing, a normal person could get it in a month

I tried this and it takes ages. I applied back on July 1st and haven't heard a peep yet - apparently this can take many months or sometimes even years.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Man, you know what?

I was wrong.

I'm used to having to get other people's records, to look up my own back to my first highschool job, took literally less than five minutes.

Coincidentally, it was also a McDonald's.

Try it yourself. Ssa.gov

I applied

Well, that's not what anyone was talking about about...

I applied
Well, that’s not what anyone was talking about about…

As clarification, I applied for the SSA-7050-F4 ( that is https://www.ssa.gov/forms/ssa-7050.html ) in order to get my detailed earnings and employment history, and following this video as a guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH8H9U-SIs8

Considering what the thread was about - what did you think I said I had applied for? I'm genuinely curious now - as per https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/flyers/EBE_Flyer_Apply_for_your_Social_Security_Number_While_Applying_for_Your.pdf it takes just two weeks after applying for the SSN / SSN card itself to get it, while actually applying for benefits takes 3-5 months as per https://finance.yahoo.com/news/social-security-benefits-long-does-180014897.html (which is ridiculously long but still not as bad as a year long wait).

to look up my own back to my first highschool job, took literally less than five minutes.
Coincidentally, it was also a McDonald’s.

Dang where were you two months ago lol - can you talk me through this? If I can pull down a record of who I worked for from their online website then this would be a really big help for me for personal reasons.

Try it yourself. Ssa.gov

I did but couldn't find it - only saw my yearly and monthly earnings totals.

[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Also, and possibly more importantly…

…WHo FuKinG CArES?!?

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