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About 49,500 people took their own lives last year in the U.S., the highest number ever, according to new government data posted Thursday.

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[-] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry maybe I'm a little triggered because this hits close to home, but seriously how the fuck can people claim "oh suicide is going up because guns"

Are they fucking blind to how things are going in the world? I'm so fucking livid right now. "Suicide is because guns" fuck off

[-] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Guns don't make suicide more likely, they make them more successful.

[-] psud@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Guns don't cause suicide, but they make it much easier to successfully complete suicide

Handguns especially

But I doubt an increase in suicides this year from last year has anything to do with gun ownership rates

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

I made a serious attempt once. I am anti-gun and didn't have access to one. I tried a different way. If someone is serious, they will find a way. (I'm doing much better, thanks)

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If you would have tired with a gun you would have succeeded. That's the point about guns and their availability.

[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Guns are the most fatal, but even then only have an 80% success rate:

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/case-fatality/

I personally knew a guy who tried and failed, living with 1/3rd of your brain missing is not pretty.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Some people are hell bent on taking any step possible to prevent suicide besides being there for their friends. The answer to the suicide problem shouldn't be suicide nets. The problem isn't the means it's the motivation.

[-] jarfil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Hint to a friend that you might feel suicidal, now you have 10 fewer friends who "don't want to deal with your shit".

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Suicide number decreased when we switched the type of gas ovens used. Use to be that you could stuff up your windows and doors, turn on the oven, and slowly drift to sleep into death. Now you will just be slightly warmer. Of course, that is a supply side solution. And just like the republican war on drugs, supply side solutions never get rid of the underlying problem.

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