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I will never use Teflon again. Even using it correctly will kill a bird in the same room. Canary in a coal mine. I won't touch the stuff. Stainless steel or cast iron.
My uncle's parrot he had for a really long time died because he put up some kind of new shades for his living room that off gassed something deadly to birds.
He knew about not using Teflon but not about window shades, or uv resistant plastic products off gassing being hazardous. He was devastated. Some of the shit sold to us is genuinely toxic. It's really messed up when you think about it.
Yes, including in MDF, laminate, most finishes on wood, most plastics, most paints and perfumes. Cement and concrete. Tires. Car exhaust. And there's a lot I'm missing.
Just a FYI, teflon products produced after the removal of PFOAs in 2013 are safe to use.
EDIT: Perhaps PTFE is also bad
PTFE is still allowed and can kill birds from the fumes.
Hmm - I'll have to research more on that. Thanks
PTFE fumes only happen if you leave the pan on the stove with nothing in it. Normal cooking activities don't reach a high enough temp for it to decompose
I'm just not going to risk it. That's not a big enough margin of safety for me compared to something like cast iron.
Watch Dark Waters, the only reason PFOAs got outted was because the DuPont themselves did the reaseasch that showed if was toxic, then Robert Bilott basically dedicated his life to uncovering their coverup. The company then basically for all intents and purposes renamed PFOA so they cant be sued for selling it anymore. The F is the important part. So basically now someone would need to do a huge amount of research out of their own pocket to prove that PFTE was safe.... "trust me bro" - DuPont probably
They still create microplastics.
Get carbon steel as well. Similarity to cast iron but lighter and just as cheap
Sure :) I like suggesting cast iron because it's easy to get secondhand/refurbish