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[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 106 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

The really funny thing about this is OP is egregiously wrong.

Soy doesn't contain estrogen, it contains phytoestrogen, which not only doesn't produce any estrogen-like side-effect, but actively prevents our bodies from taking and producing estrogenic hormones.

This is all very ironic, considering drinking ~~excessive~~ cows milk ~~leeches calcium out of our bones and~~ exposes us to a smorgasbord of hormones not designed for humans.

Soy is shit tier anyway, oat milk all the way.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This leeching effect is not true. It's a myth spread by alt-health providers.

[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At this point I just don't believe anything weird anyone has to say about food humanity has eaten for thousands of years unless they can back it up with real studies from real medical journals.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 14 points 1 year ago

Right?!

Its all just marketing. We die for whatever reason anyways just let me eat in peace!

I just do this with everything that is advertised as something big. The hidden danger of food. Source? What the president of a country said about its own country. Source? Anything not trivial gets treated as misinformation unless proven.

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] bran_buckler@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think your initial claim of cow’s milk leeching calcium has the burden of proof and so needs a source.

Otherwise, it’s proving a negative (that cow’s milk doesn’t leech calcium).

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 4 points 1 year ago

You're right. After looking it up it seems like I've had some bad intel.

I've corrected my previous post.

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

But Ichiban would never!

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Doesnt cowmilk also actually have estrogen in it? Making it even more ironic?

[–] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also cheese, eggs, meat, and even our environment due to waste products (feces, urine) generated by animal farms.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fml, guess no more feces and urine for me, what the fuck am I gonna eat?

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yep. Mmmmm... Yummy hormones. Also delicious nipple pus.

[–] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

my ma once said that because milk has estrogen in thats the sole reason why trans girls exist :(

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago

My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know what's great about nipple pus? You can make bacteria eat it down, then eat the resulting bacteria shit!

Add some fungus to that bacteria shit, and that's my favorite. Pair that with a yeast shit water, and it's heaven.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cow milk does not leech calcium from your bones.

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago

Yep, my bad, I've corrected it.

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

also it should be leach

[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If soy did do this, red states would be trying to regulate it so trans people couldn't buy it.

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago

!Don't tell them !<

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Out of all the things you can make out of soy, why milk? Tofu exists and it's grand-master based food. I'll smash several plates of mapo tofu without hesitation. Soy sauce, edamame, all ridiculously good shit.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I disagreed with you until last night about tofu. But gods damn that orange tofu I had last night was just excellent. Good tofu is apparently something that exists and was just always out of reach

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Portland has oodles of places that serve good tofu. Fried, marinated, sauce, and so on.

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People keep saying it's nice, but I've never had any good stuff. I would try it again if thought there was a reasonable chance I'd like it!

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was crispy and kinda tough and tossed in orange sauce at a vaguely pan-Asian restaurant.

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn, I'm in the UK so no easy way to go to the same restaurant/chain!

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah it’s just a small single location place anyways. I will say I don’t eat much tofu because I didn’t quit meat until I was in a relationship with someone who can’t eat soy, so it may just be common for hole in the wall East Asian restaurants to have amazing tofu

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

tempeh is also insanely good, and remarkably nutritious

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically cheese but made out of soy, afaik.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Naturally, but by then it's no longer milk, it's tofu.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Personally, I prefer soy milk to cow or oat milk because it has a better nutritional profile. It has less sugar and fat, and more protein, as well as having fiber. (Some oat milk brands do have fiber in them, but most of the ones I've found are very high in fat, sugar, and calories.)

Edit: And I like the not-overpowering vanilla flavored ones because I pretty much only use it for cereal or to accompany cookies.

[–] chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I've got a new dish to try with mapo tofu. Thank you for the indirect recommendation!

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Amazing, prior to today I didn't know people could have this much information on soy and still end up objectively incorrect about its position relative to oat milk.

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago

Go fuck yourself buddy. You and your non-oat-centrered world view need to check your privilege.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Soy is shit tier anyway, oat milk all the way.

Nah brah, coconut milk is the choice of kings.