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Doesn’t it take at least a decade of working in the warehouse to get a seat in a truck? And how many years do you need to drive before you reach that salary? Tech workers can earn six figures right out of college.
I was going to say, $49 for full time drivers and like $25 for part time. Part time meaning those guys waiting to get a route. That’s $52k for the people waiting for that big payday.
See my comment to OP. The 170k figure is based on the end of the contract. Full time drivers will be getting minimal raises each year. The media, UPS and the Teamster's are all bullshiting everyone. Even the AC going into trucks is bullshit. They are implementing it over the life of the contract. Most current drivers will never drive a truck with AC in their career.
It’s only a 5 year contract. Now they did only agree to put ac in brand new trucks, so yeah that’s10-20 years away. Still seems like a strong win for the union.
Also, the media who is obviously not on the unions side, is not mentioning that the pay increases are based on the end of the contract.
Drivers are not going to make 170k if the contract passes the vote. They will be making 170k in 10 years. Their base pay will increase 5% the first year, and then every year they will get a 75 cent raise.
Does anybody want to guess what inflation will drive tech engineers salaries to in 10 years?
If inflation continues as it has, UPS drivers will be locked into wage increases that don't beat inflation.
UPS is also experiencing record setting turnover rates for employees right now. They are giving write ups to employees en mass. Literally lines of workers waiting for their turn to receive their write up each morning.
The contract being called a massive win by the media, UPS, and the head of the Teamster's is actually bullshit. Very few drivers support it, and it will probably not pass the vote.