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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.cringecollective.io/post/75583

why isn't it ok? why????

Meme "the number of people who think this is an abomination" over a photo of a USB-A to USB-A cable, "but think this is perfectly acceptable" over a photo of a USB-C to USB-C cable, "makes me sick."

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[-] ekky@sopuli.xyz 147 points 4 months ago

Huh, I'm not sure they are comparable.

Didn't USB A and USB B use a master-slave relationship in which the male would (generally) always be the slave, whereas USB C uses agreement and discussion to decide the master and slave roles regardless of connector gender.

Please do correct me if I'm wrong. Also, do we say "agent" now instead of "slave", or what is the new term?

[-] lengau@midwest.social 146 points 4 months ago

I believe the common terms now are "domme" and "sub"

[-] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 35 points 4 months ago

I can't tell if this is real life or sarcasm....

Did I really miss the memo on this one?

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 29 points 4 months ago

No that's the lingo the professionals use these days

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

I can confirm, I'm called sub at work

[-] communism@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago

Ah yeah, I've heard that offices are rolling out a new role of office cumdump. Glad to hear from someone already in the role

[-] ScrotusMaximus@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

journalctl --cumdump

[-] chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago

I'm going to refer to myself as USB-B from now on

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 101 points 4 months ago

I think the biggest problem I see with A to A is: who's delivering power, and who's receiving it? Maybe if you use it only with the device it came with then it'll be fine, but if anyone tries to just hook up that cable to two random computers, it might actually cause a short circuit and fry something.

Whereas Type-C was explicitly made to handle such situations.

Or a shorter reason: Type-C cable is allowed by the spec while Type-A is not.

[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago

Hrm. I have a keyboard that requires an A to A cable and I think it works with the cable any way around...

Might be wrong.

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 months ago

It makes sense, if I remember correctly the older USB cable (i.e. everything before Type-C) are passive, so as long as the pins are wired symmetrically it wouldn't matter which side is which. But whoever made your keyboard really blundered, there is no reason in the world why anyone would do this. There's so many options: the B connector, mini USB, micro USB. All would make sense to put in the keyboard. A just doesn't.

Let me guess: you got it from an ultra cheap online store? AliExpress/Wish/Temu?

[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago

You guessed wrong.

https://www.maltron.com/store/p10/Maltron_L90_dual_hand_fully_ergonomic_%283D%29_keyboard_-_UK_English.html

It's a ridiculously expensive and "home made" looking, but it saved my hands from OCD.

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago

Ooh, I did guess wrong! That is an interesting specimen.

My suspicion is that they are experts in ergonomics, not in electrical engineering, so they probably aren't aware of how silly and possibly dangerous what they did is. Or perhaps they simply don't care because "it gets the job done", standards and specifications be damned.

Anyway, in this case I'm happy to be proven wrong. Thanks.

[-] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago

I known they outsourced the firmware development, so who knows, maybe the electronics hardware too.

[-] jcg@halubilo.social 2 points 4 months ago

I've actually used this to my advantage. I bought some cheap speaker/light combos which basically made the lights dance to the music. The only power connector was a wire that comes straight out of the device and into an outlet. But it did have a USB port for loading music from a USB stick. So naturally I plugged one side of a USB A into the port and the other side into a power bank and it just straight up worked.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 4 months ago

master/slave could be primary/secondary, primary/subordinate or principle/agent, so you're correct on that replacement.

I personally am a big fan of "Mantrap" becoming an "Access Control Vestibule" mostly because it's fun to say.

[-] moonlight@fedia.io 27 points 4 months ago

I like controller/peripheral, which is the most descriptive in my opinion. That's what's commonly used for SPI.

[-] rishado@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I've been using parent/child, I guess that's not always correct?

[-] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In the usb world its "host" and "device", not "master" and "slave".
But yes you are right

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

Both ends of a USB cable are generally male (unless you're talking about an extender). Generally the type B end (in mini, micro, or full configuration) would be the client though I have seen a couple of clients use Mini or Micro A.

[-] fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Yeah we’ve been going by primary-secondary where I am for the just 6 to 7 years now but I don’t think a universally agreed replacement for the terms exists yet.

[-] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Mechanics are still trying to figure that out with the "master cylinder" and "slave cylinder"

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Type C sounds like a healthy relationship.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago

I have a healthy relationship with my Master uwu

[-] ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

I think reusing server/client naming for USB connectivity instead of master/slave would fit it

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