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The state of US political discourse
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It's a good thing that the democrats saved abortion rights while they had three branches of government under control. Vote! ๐
For who?
Edit: Weird that I can't get a serious answer to this question.
you libs are like an overexcited puppy with a new toy, you're gonna rip the seams out of "wierd" within a week and then you won't have it any more
Yeah you're right it's getting pretty overused.
Anyways who are you voting for?
Real talk, nobody. Might put in for PSL if it's on the ballot. If you're interested, I have a number of reasons why.
Edit: lol nevermind, I read your comments in the rest of the thread and have determined that you are not a serious person
I'm not voting.
xi jin ping
The weird jab is only working against the fash because they're obsessed with aesthetics. And now that it's being overused by people who are similarly hollow, it's gonna lose its impact very soon.
You're not getting a serious answer because everyone here is irony poisoned as a defence mechanism from watching liberal electoral politics fail over and over again while continuously being gaslit by Dems. Most of us voted for Obama because we believed his progressive rhetoric. Then we watched him bail out banks and continue bloody imperialism and torture, failing to fulfill most of his promises despite at times controlling all three branches. We're living in the world of Obama's cynicism, or backing up further, of (Bill) Clinton's rightward shift into Republican politics with a Democrat mask.
Most of us backed Sanders then watched him get ratfucked twice. A lot of us still voted for (Hilary) Clinton because we believed she might be marginally better than Trump, and we watched her lose the electoral college despite winning the popular vote. A lot of us voted for Biden for the same reason, then watched as he continued Trump's policies and funded genocide.
At each step more and more people started realizing bourgeois electoralism is a sham and turned to reading theory and organizing. So we really don't care who you vote for. If you actually care about anything more than aesthetics, read some theory and join an org.
it was sarcasm.
Not only that, they ditched the electoral college and passed universal healthcare.
But you're actively supporting the people who banned it
The consequences don't matter when you decide they aren't real ๐ซ
I see logical propositions aren't your forte.
Good grief Charlie Brown, when will you ever learn.
Stringent purity test being someone not actively furthering genocide.
look at this pro-genocide asshole
Sure, Muslims are being slaughtered every day, children are being shot in the head while walking down the street, hospitals are basically halfway to being morgues, but how could you possibly hold anyone to higher standards?!?!
Expecting someone to be anti-genocide is way too far!
this meme but replace the bottom text with "and then when they get elected they don't do any of the good stuff they claimed and only reach across the aisle to bipartisanly do extremely bad stuff" and put a DNC button on the hippy
that is true, but it's still better to snooze the timer of the bomb than letting it explode. Currently the problem is still the first past the post system.
The only reason of letting trump win is if you are willing to gamble on his term resulting a violent revolution for the better.
If you actually care, go join an org and read some theory. "Snoozing the timer of the bomb" requires working for a real solution that can be actualized in this supposed extra time. Otherwise it's the same performative nonsense we've been told by liberals for the last three elections.
I don't want fascist border and immigration policies, whether it's republicans or democrats doing it. Both are promising to do more of it, so I won't vote for them. I don't want a genocide in Palestine, whether it's democrats or republicans doing it, so I won't vote for them. I don't want an economic trade war with China, the nation that makes almost everything including the shit our own military uses. Once again, both are promising more of that, so I won't vote for them. I don't support prosecutors, so I won't vote for Harris. I don't supporting exploitative business owners or silver-spoon dipshits, so I won't vote for Trump.
There's no "snooze" on the bomb. Both of the parties are asking for your vote so they can detonate the bomb. You can't stop either of them from doing it, so why fucking endorse them?
At least one party isn't trying to ban EV's and makes some attempts for green policy, which is important with climate change basically already here. They also forgive some student loans for some people, funded an infrastructure bill, and give some increased child tax credits. Also isn't trying to hurt LGBTQ people in a federal level.
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/14/1251096758/biden-china-tariffs-ev-electric-vehicles-5-things
China is the largest EV manufacturer on the planet and make better and cheaper EVs than the extraordinarily expensive US-made EVs. But you're right, making it so only the wealthy can have EVs isn't technically banning them; it's just not any better.
Half and quarter measures are again no different from doing nothing at all. Pretend green initiatives that do nothing but placate soft libs who don't actually care about policy doesn't help.
They're not trying to protect LGBTQ people either, and everything else you just mentioned was done in name only, they're all complete failures compared to the promises of the Biden campaign.
So all it takes to get you to vote for genocide is faking doing good things without really actually doing anything.
I'm so sick of libs talking about this. That is not the problem. Your system is not broken. It is working exactly as its intended to work for the people it was designed to work for.
You can't reform a system exists solely to oppress you
Wtf is this 2012 meme lmao
Someone as old as you should have recognized the lesser evil trap by now
There are a couple of good, like-minded candidates on the ballot: Jill Stein and Cornel West.