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submitted 4 months ago by eli04@linux.community to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

obligatory I'm a German nurse living in Germany, but the German channels on lemmy don't have as many members as this one, so I ask here.

When I work I like to do my job and then relax. To me, doing it the other way round is just stupid. I was never the kind of person that goes to work to socialize, I don't need it and I strongly resent forced socialization.

For the last 2 years I've worked within the same hospital system and it's clear to me now, nobody thinks like me: all my coworkers spend the first hour of the shift talking about their private lives, as they were looking for excuses not to work and expect anyone else to take care of patients. And because I'm the only one with this job mentality, it's always me the one who works while the rest do nothing.

This is very frustrating and I'm now applying elsewhere, but it bothers me that my new workplace can turn out to be like this.

I'm also applying for office positions (no shifts) and wonder: does this happen there as well? Ideally I'd be completely responsible for my work alone.

I feel like a student at school again, when the teacher forced me to work in a group with the lazier ones and I ended up either doing most of the job or became as lazy as them. Why work when they don't?

I don't want to work with people who slow me down.

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[-] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

Why is work so important for you? I think you'll find that a large number of people simply go through the motions because the stakes are low and their lives outside of work are more interesting. To them, it is an exchange of labor (that isn't valued anyway) for (not enough) money. Why push yourself at work when it simply doesn't matter? And what will drive you nuts later is that people from that "lazy" group will eventually end up promoted over you. The work is ultimately inconsequential, but the relationships built matter.

I don't really have an answer for you other than to introspect a little bit on your work ethic.

[-] workerONE@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

They're a nurse, you don't think that's important?

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Unrelated to your main question: you can try !fragfeddit@feddit.org or !fragfeddit@feddit.de, and ensure you set language to Deutsch.

[-] eli04@linux.community 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

work is important to me because I like having a roof, food and healthcare. I don't have the luxury of not having to work.

Are you saying that work is a place to dump your issues or what you did on the weekend to the point of not doing your job? This is something I find very odd. I don't want to work with people with this mindset.

Are you advising me to ignore patients when they call? cause that's what they do and if a job is simply inconsequential, why bother?

Are you also advising me to listen to them when they rant against greens (an ecologist party in Germany) or migrants? It's tiring and closeted racist.

I don't see how my work ethic is the wrong one, or how yours would be better. Better if I want to become a careerist? absolutely. Better if I want to feel good with myself? absolutely not.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I like having a roof, food and healthcare.

You live in Germany, you actually have the luxury to not work. Everyone gets a roof, food and healthcare, even without working.

Also, this is not an argument against your co-workers: if they do less than you, isn't your job safe then and everything is good?

I don’t want to work with people with this mindset.

Then you should stop working, because they will be everywhere to some degree.

Are you advising me to ignore patients when they call?

If your work is done, that's exactly what you do. Or if you're in the process of doing something else/handling another patient, idk how it works exactly. It's the responsibility of management to ensure that all patients get treated, not yours. You can and should of course report when this doesn't happen and you notice it.

[-] z00s@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Because ethics, morals and values, dude.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

There is now a very common and mainstream change in approach to how those subjects are viewed (for the better). One could argue that at some (vaguely gestures throughout time) point in our history there was a "social contract" but due to greed and consolidation of wealth, it's no longer the standard.

Some would argue that "work-ethic", which benefits the ruling class more, is antithesis to "family-values" at this point in time. I would argue that the terms are abused too often for actual debate, what we admire is dedication and focus regardless if you're in an office or raising a barn. Corporation loyalty and exploitative consent often gets mixed up into the definition which the majority don't agree to so there's push back.

[-] z00s@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Some would argue

Who? And they'd be wrong lol

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

oh ok, love the explanation and the complete blindness to everyone who's commented on here lol. You definitely just excrete an aura of an ethical and moral person.

[-] z00s@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Ahh the sound of someone who knows they're wrong, ringing crisp and clear over the rainforest treetops...

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yup. I only do the work I'm paid for-- and I know what wages I'm supposed to be making if not for the capitalists suppressing a livable wage in damned near every field in the West right now. If I'm supposed to be making mid-upper five figures, if my wage rate is supposed to be between the 60k and 80k ranges, and I'm only pulling 45? Well, you're only getting 45k worth of work out of me regardless of what you say the workload is.

You will never see me slaving for c-suites, regardless of field, regardless of essentiality. Remind me of Primus's "HOINFODAMAN", I won't do it.

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