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Legit though. Part of the message is that Saruman got so intensely focused on industrialization and combat with forces like his own that he neglected the woods and failed to consider that there would be consequences for environmental harm. I don't think JRR Tolkien meant it to be a parable or allegory, but I also think some of the intense traumas he lived and experienced had absolutely no way of not seeping into his work. Its like... That wasn't an explicit exploration of anxiety about industrialization, but you don't just fight in WWI and not write stories about calamitous industrial wars. Even if you're trying not to (which according to him, he was trying not), you're gonna
I don't think he accidentally stumbled into "nature destroying industry" lol.
I get it. I won't say you're wrong. I'm just basing what I'm saying off his letters where for some of the more obvious allegories and parallels he was really dismissive and was like "don't know where you're getting that from, I was just using my imagination"
The real discussion is which is true:
Personally, as much as people of that generation did erase their own experience, I think he was being genuine in his letters when he said "I wasn't trying to do that, don't know why you'd think that" when what he experienced shook him so deeply to his core that it needed an outlet, and that outlet became his imagination. But I see validity in all the ways of seeing it, except to take him at his word and dismiss that LotR was influenced by an industrial war that felt like it completely destroyed the world
Tolkien uses the words in a funny way, but what he actually means to say in those letters is that he rejects other people feeling the need to absorb the authorial intent. He wants people drawing their own conclusions in relation to the work, he doesn't want to prescribe the one correct reading of the text. That's what Tolkien views Allegory as
Tolkien was for sure writing from his experience with war, he just doesn't want you to have to read the text that way. He wants you to interpret the story however you like.
He based Mordor on the heavily industrialized north of England and the shire on the idyllic south (Kent, where he grew up). So the ecological themes of the books are very much based on the times Tolkien lived in, consciously or subconsciously.