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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

on a long enough time span, you’re virtually guaranteed to kill innocents

On a long enough time span, you're also virtually guaranteed to lock innocents in prison for the rest of their natural lives. (My guess is that this happens more often than killing innocents because death-penalty cases attract much more attention.) Is killing people so much worse than putting them up in a cage and never letting them out that one is inhumane and the other isn't?

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I don't disagree with your main point, the carceral system is itself fundamentally broken, and fixing one thing won't suddenly make the system humane. The goal of a criminal justice system should be to reduce recidivism, to empower people through education to leave ready to have a more constructive and fulfilling life than when they arrived. We should respect the humanity of inmates, overturn wrongful convictions, eviscerate minimum sentencing guidelines, abolish stupid crimes that don't even represent a threat to society like prostitution, and apply state and federal minimum wages to inmates, among so many other changes.

There's so much inhumanity in the system, to your point. We can and should revisit convictions, and try to make amends if we got it wrong. And it should really never look anything like putting people in a cage for life.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

If they are innocent they still have the rest of their lives for that to be determined.

Once you kill an innocent, they don't get the rest of their natural life for that to be determined.