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US senators claim car makers sold driver data for pennies
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My latest concern these car stories have brought on, is that Ring, Nest, Eufy, other smart home camera systems, are selling data.
No evidence to it atm, but Ring used to provide access to police; not a huge leap to selling collected data to data brokers and insurance companies.
Currently, insurance companies are deploying drones to check out properties, and terminate and/or non-renew home owners insurance based on the footage. It's not a huge leap for smart camera providers to provide snapshots for this same purpose. It would be a huge betrayal of trust, and tank the brand, especially since many people set cameras up inside their home, but extracting pennies now, in exchange for losing several dollars per month subscription fees and hardware purchases, sounds just like something a lot of these companies would do.
I knew about the police getting access, but I missed that home insurance companies were checking properties with drones. I guess I don't mind them spending their own money to send their own drones to verify properties they insure, but I agree that using MY camera that I bought to get info or sell MY data is at least unethical and ought to be illegal. It should be required that they get my explicit consent to that sort of thing for each instance of data collection or sale.
If you search for "home owner insurance non-renewal drone", you should find tons of stories about it.
They may be hiring third parties, or doing it themselves, but regardless, it is happening.
Once again, to clarify, the smart camera thing has just been sitting in the back of my mind, not an accusation, just a concern as a possibility. Would probably be a fun investigation for an investigative journalist. Or just someone scouring those fun terms of service policies for language that might indicate such things.
Edit: Would actually be fun to get all of those companies to publicly state on the record that they do not, and will not ever do such a thing, your data is private, and will not be shared with anyone other than law enforcement, and/or without a warrant (or other legal court order).
If the drones are flying over private property without explicit authorization, the FAA may be a good place to start.
I was under the impression that airspace is not part of land property, so flying drones above private property in most instances is not illegal. Could totally be wrong here
In the US, property owners do indeed have some degree of rights over low-altitude airspace. The FAA states that one should have permission before intentionally flying over private property. In addition, a large number of states and municipalities have drone-specific surveillance, harassment, and privacy laws, so, it's a fair change that those may apply. Any commercial drone operator that violates local laws in course of their flight is likely to run into trouble with the FAA too.