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Damn NZ what happened, you used to be cool.
They too suffered from increased anger from the right wing, so when Jacinda resigned, they elected a right-wing government.
Well that was stupid wasn’t it
NZ polity isn't quite as partisan as in the US but we're very close. At least we have multiple parties in parliament, and typically have coalition governments.
There are still large pluralities of voters who vote stupidly (i.e. against their own actual interests).
There's no path for a commercial air carrier to do this, nor is there any point as we're all well and truly fucked.
No matter how fucked you are you can always get that much more fucked
That is the thing: Mitigating climate change does not have a boolean result (we mitigated it or not), it is a scale, without a relevant upper limit. So, if you think "fuck this, we can't stay even within 3 degrees warming, so it doesn't matter what we do from here" you are wrong. Even if that is the case, at least try to mitigate 4 degrees and so on. Basically there is a difference between "we are fucked", "we are super-fucked", "we are mega-fucked" and so on! Getting complacent is not an option here!
Right. Also the speed of transition matters a lot.
Take any devastating effect that climate change might bring. Regions becoming uninhabitable, millions migrating, thousands of houses destroyed, crops failing, species going extinct.
For any of these effects, it helps a great deal if they can be delayed by years or hopefully decades. It gives everything more time to adapt. Like 10 million people migrating in 1 year puts a hell lot more stress on everybody involved (including the receiving countries) compared to 10 million migrating in 10 years.
Or your country might be blessed to deal with wildfires and floods one after the other, instead of both occuring simultaneously.
More time is worth more effort.
We're already mega fucked.
That is my point though: No matter how fucked we are, it could always get worse. There is no "we reached the limit anyway, so no need to worry about anything anymore"
There’s still close to 50% chance we’re not fucked. We need to grasp at that straw, especially since that hope is what can keep it from getting worse, much worse. Missing our goal is pretty much a foregone conclusion, but we’re not yet known to be locked into one of the catastrophic tipping points. Let’s avoid those