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I hope that orange fuck just gets crushed when election day rolls around. Then we'll never have to hear from him again.
There is no scenario besides death where that last sentence is true. Even then you're going to be hearing the same shit from his supporters for a long time.
I think you're correct, but if he becomes completely nonviable, the party will phase him out. He's a useful-ish idiot right now. That might not be true for long, and then maybe his legal safety nets will stop protecting him once they see he can't do anything for them.
Look at the trend from across the world. The far-right is not crushed-- only kept at bay. Marine Le Pen and her party in France have been going at it for 7 years now. Without the tactical voting in previous elections, her party would have won. AfD surpassed the centre left SDP party as the second most popular party and it may only be a matter of time for another far right party to rule Germany again. And the far-right, as we speak, is in charge in Italy along with Mussolini's granddaughter. In Netherlands, Geert Wilders' party is finally in power despite initially losing 7 years ago.
The liberal media's celebration of any news of far right not winning in any country is false sense of security and deliberate attempt to misdirect the real root cause. If the underlying economic and social issues are not addressed, and the rich are being allowed to get even richer while the poor ever poorer, the far right will only inch closer and closer to attaining power again.
Yup, this is just a replay of early 20th century. Inequality exploded and eventually you had revolutions virtually everywhere (in europe and the west, ar least).
Some were extreme-left (communism)
Some were extreme-right (facism)
Some were far-left for the time (social-democratic, or "new deal" as it's known in the US)
Some were violent, some were relatively peaceful.
But they were basically all inevitable, the people were frustrated and willing to support whatever platform promised something 'different'.
We're at that point currently, but only the far-right is offering anything different, so even though it's a terrible option, people will gravitate towards it. The solution is to offer genuine vision of change from the left.
Why? I don't get this. I understand people are upset with the status quo but there is no version of the far right that has not played the same game when in power. They offer no solution to the problem you state
They complain and they offer a bogeyman. That's enough for most people since it comforts them.
Precisely. The lack of jobs and housing are blamed on immigrants, even though decades long austerity and neoliberalism led us to where we are now.
he'll whine but I'm pretty sure if he loses he'll spend the rest of his time on house arrest at his resort
god that would be so awesome to see him decimated by a woman of color... the electoral college is a huge issue but there's finally some energy on the Dem side... we'll see.
I hope he gets so profoundly smacked around at the ballot box that the GOP finally fractures. Best case scenario, it'll be into three separate parties that all blame each other for the loss and each hate the others more than they hate the Democrats. They'll be so disarrayed and disunited they'll never hold office in any meaningful numbers ever again.
And why not? The Whig party also crashed and burned. They too were an unlikely coalition of convenience that, after being a major player in American politics for two decades and getting Tyler & Fillmore into office in 1848, lost the 1852 election with only 42/296 electoral votes.
By 1854, the Whig party was a shadow of its former self, most of its members having left for the "American Party," which also shook itself apart without ever putting a president into office or holding more than 20% of Congress.
Then in 1856 Millard Fillmore ran for re-election on a Whig ticket, after being out of the White House for several years, and only pulled 8/296 electoral votes, putting the last nail into the party's coffin.
May history repeat itself.