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I hate that this is true, plus he's already said he would "take the best of the left and the best of the right" as some nonsense enlightened centrist candidate.
What's wrong with that?
It's centrist nonsense, if someone says a waterfall flows downstream and someone else says the waterfall flows upstream, that doesn't mean the waterfall is stagnant, or that the person who said it flows upstream has a good point.
The left and right aren't arbitrary collections of disorganized and incoherent positions you can combine ad-hoc.
I do regularly, what's up?
Looks like overanalysis to me. Not sure the massive metaphor was necessary to attack 'them centrists'.
That being said - the notion that centrism is a compromise is only something I've seen from people who are not partaking in said centrism. Not that I give a shit or anything.
Why is it "overanalysis?" It's a common problem, people who grow up privledged and don't consider themselves to be very "political" tend to think politics is about listening to everyone and compromising. It isn't limited to Mr. Beast.
As for the metaphor, it was, like, 2 sentences. I don't think that's "massive," and it seemed to get the poijnt through.
As for Centrism, why is Centrism good? Why are Centrists Centrists?
Why are you calling people who want to do what’s good for the nation, centrists?
You’re smearing them since they are wanting to do something different than what you want, that doesn’t automatically make them bad.
This is the state of US politics… can’t even have someone poke their head in without being insulted since they aren’t fully in the left or right. Two party democracy doesn’t work, and you’re perpetuating and making it harder for your country to try and accept this needed change.
Don’t just insult and call people names who don’t agree with you politically, that just makes you an ass.
They didn’t say centrists bad, they said arguing for compromise with bad actors (those that deny provable facts) is bad.
They are smearing “centrists” and the “right” in every comment dude…
And no, they just have an axe to grind for anyone who doesn’t align politically with them.
In a functioning democracy a “centrist” would have the good ideas of both the progressives and conservatives. So there isn’t anything about denying probable facts, and the rant they’re going on about 2+2=6 is a strawman fallacy to derail the conversation. Since that’s the uniquely US issue…
People who want to do good for the nation are Leftists, not centrists.
I'm smearing people who think politics is about taking midpoints from incompatible solutions.
This is not a US issue.
When have I insulted anyone or called them names? Centrist nonsense is nonsense, correct, but I haven't personally insulted anyone here, unlike you.
In a functioning political system both the “left” and “right” are competent and have good ideas.
Who said midpoints from incompatible solutions? Thats unique US issue as we’ve already discussed and pointed out, in other countries and political systems, that’s what you would want, since they are combing good ideas, not 2+2=6 as you’re claiming. Yes that’s apparently what happens in US political, not in healthy democracies.
Uh… yes it is, that’s why I would like for you to point to any other countries with these two party democracy issues.
You seriously can’t see how calling people “left”, “right”, or “centrist” is insulting them? Is that how ingrained and indoctrinated this stuff is in US politics?
It’s progressives and conservatives, the fact that you don’t even comprehend you’re refering to sides while using these insults and slurs to refer to political parties is quite frankly wild. You’re calling anyone who doesn’t agree with you politically names, I never mentioned in here dude lmfao, that makes you an ass. But yeah that shows your intent with this discussion, I’m gonna block you now instead.
Why? The Left is correct regardless of where you are.
Logic. The left and right aren't incoherent groups of random positions from people genetically labeled "left" or "right." If leftists want prison reform, privitizing prisons gets in the way of that and can make it worse.
It doesn't matter how many parties you have, centrism is still nonsense. This isn't a two-party democracy issue. Having multiple leftist and multiple rightist parties doesn't change that the midpoint is not inherently a good thing, and can make things worse by combining incompatible policies.
Nowhere are these considered insults inherently. Stop making this about the US. I'm a Communist, why would I be insulted by "left?"
Lmao
Calls out fascism "You just don't agree with me politically"
Right wingers never change. They pretend it's just a small difference of ideas and not literal genocide their side is proposing.
Yep, and they romanticize it with "Marketplace of Ideas" bs.
You really don't get what an Overton window is...
I think they were just saying that you aren't a centrist if you support any part of Jan 6th.. Like, of course you aren't.
Definitionally...
Yeah, I think you've been whiffing too much of the city air. All those exhaust fumes did a number on you.