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[–] hrrrngh@awful.systems 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I think some people are from hell

Here is the worst thing I didn't have to read today from a transhumanist:

Yes but laws are often outpaced, presumably having your dog walk in and say he liked it is a pretty good reason to have your bestiality charge thrown out and perhaps move on to the discrimination countersuit.

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Also this may have historic reasons, as the first futa was drawn centuries ago, long before the technology that enabled transgenderism, with breasts being the key difference.

Bonus round:

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What percentage of homeless people do you think would be worthwhile having as slaves? Many of them are broken people who can't reasonably support themselves in their current state, nor do anything to fix it.

This is vaguely similar to my idea for how to fix homelessness, build a community for them on a large scale, either state or national, where property is cheap and low skill jobs are abundant. Then you build a prison there, and everyone guilty of a 'crime of homelessness' such as trespassing, illegal camping, stealing food, etc. Then they get put in jail for a few days, probably put through some level of rehab, given basic medical care, and eventually a job for the massive debt they've just wracked up. What work it would be is the hard question, but the benefits to everyone else would pay for them to dig holes to fill back in if needed. Maybe have them sort recycling or something.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

how to fix homelessness, build a community for them on a large scale, either state or national, where property is cheap and low skill jobs are abundant

Okay, I mean, there's no indication as to how you'd achieve this, but yes, community help and cheap rent are absolutely a good ideal to aim at...

Then you build a prison there.

Aaaand you're a cartoon villain. What the absolute fuck.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago

just want to make sure this is on the record

those suggestions (from the deranged OP) are basically segregationist: “you take all the poor, you give them their own little world [and then they’re no longer here, where we have to look at them]”. there’s a long track record of awful enterprises that have been done with that spirit. they carry names like Apartheid, ghetto, etc.

(there are occasionally serious well-meaning suggestions on how to provision for the poor and unfortunate in ways that allow improving lives, but those don’t tend to handwave the details, and never (afaict) involve the “make them go over there” step)

[–] Aoife@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 4 months ago

Holy shit every one of those was like getting ounched in the head from a completely random direction

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i've seen some of these takes coming from libertarians, but never from a single person

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

This is the kind of take a libertarian makes, and then goes 'well nobody debates me on this so my logic is solid'. While he isn't noticing that people are just avoiding the conversation all together, as nobody wants to roll in that mud with him.

The UR example of these kinds of bad takes is the book "Defending the Undefendable", a dumb book I have ranted about before.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

certified awful content, don't open if you like dogs

So in addition to normal libertarian drivel like daydreaming about being a slaveowner or such, this reminds me of an incident when certain libertarian org found that they have an actual dogfucker in their ranks (kompromat in polish) https://web.archive.org/web/20161206144701/https://www.wykop.pl/wpis/20957439/mirki-neuropa-moze-was-to-zainteresuje-na-zdjeciu-/

so that "what if dog consents tho" is not exactly a hypothetical question

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago

robin hanson blogging about his activities on a typical monday