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submitted 4 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

The former president has always considered himself to be the ultimate disrupter. But this time, the disruption is on the other side.

Through the weekend, there were an awful lot of questions that were going back and forth from people in the president’s tightest circle, and one of the questions that kept being asked was whether Joe Biden was going to endorse Kamala Harris or not. And the question didn’t revolve around whether he wanted to or not, but whether people in her camp thought it would be better for her to fight for it, win it on her own, and not be seen as somebody who was tapped by President Biden and so, in her own way, have a fresh start going into the campaign.

So the timing seems to be about as good as it could have been to end what has just been one of the craziest two or three weeks in American politics in quite some time.

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[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 52 points 4 months ago

the fight is not for maga votes, it is for the undecided morons in the middle.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 34 points 4 months ago

The fight is against the couch, idiot undecided voters are basically a coin toss. Getting 80%+ of your supporters to actually vote for you is all you really need.

Nothing was more demoralizing than Biden in the last debate. Trump against someone under 60 could have the same thing happen to him.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The undecided will be gaslighted too. Are you really sugesting Trump would try to use reason to sway the undecided?
Trump has only one mode, and that's narcissistic pathological liar.

[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

Are you really sugesting Trump would try to use reason to sway the undecided?

no, i am suggesting that primary goal of democratic candidate is not to go after maga voters.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He needs to capture his base too, and make sure as many of them as possible will vote, without them the marginal voters are irrelevant.
Trump will use stupid arguments and lies, and look like he is winning. That's how he built the MAGA crowd, and that's the system he will continue to use.
The undecided he manages to convince to vote for him, will then be supporting MAGA by definition, even if they aren't as batshit crazy as the hardcore MAGA supporters.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 7 points 4 months ago

No, but a good and clear debater, like an experienced lawyer that she is, would blow him apart. Biden was an effective politician and debated pretty well, but its not his forte in the same way.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

It would be cool if Harris can expose Trump, like Obama exposed Romney in their 2nd debate.

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