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[–] DarkGamer@fedia.io 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)
[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Biden wasn't viable because he has cognitive decline. Kamala will mop the floor with Trump in debates.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 64 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I would not be at all surprised if Trump refuses to debate her.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 20 points 5 months ago

I think I remember reading an earlier analysis that says that Trump has no reason to accept debates with any potential new candidate, as it just gives them more visibility.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. They had no reason to debate Biden again. They sure as shit won't put him on stage against her, or ANY other candidate.

[–] the_frumious_bandersnatch@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This would be awesome. Give Harris a two hour uninterrupted prime time spot to let the former prosecutor make a case against electing a convicted felon and follow it with 2 hours of the oldest candidate in US history rambling. 😆

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago

I'd love to see it. Prosecutor going after a convicted felon and rapist sounds like a great time.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 27 points 5 months ago

Trump will visibly age on stage like Palpatine from the absolute roasting Harris would do to him

[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Charitable to think that Trump would agree to a debate with Harris.

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Why wouldn’t he? Is he to old and scared to cope?

[–] DarkGamer@fedia.io 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Both candidates are experiencing decline, and if Biden were elected and incapable of doing the job it would have resulted in a Harris Presidency anyway. It's such an odd thing to object over. We've had presidents in decline before and the country kept running just fine, (FDR, Reagan.)

Biden did a fine job in office, I'm especially proud of his union support, and his policies were spot on in my opinion. To throw him under the bus like this seems really shitty.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 months ago

Biden made the right decision for the country.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you think debates are really going to sway voters at this point? Like the people considering Trump don't already know what a blowhard he is?

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago

Debates can energize the voter base which is what we need right now. And who knows, the debates might even convince some people.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People don't know much about Kamala yet. That will now change very dramatically. Biden had hit his ceiling, a known quantity that everyone already knew very well. Harris has room to climb.

[–] Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

That's something I think some people just missed when Biden dropping out was debated. Of course, the other potential picks were polling behind him at that point. But he was showing clear signs that he had peaked, and would only be able to fight not to drop further. His most powerful argument had been not being Trump - which any candidate can wield. And any candidate with charisma and the ability to speak, debate and campaign has a lot of room to move up, whereas Biden was fighting not to move down.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

To be fair, most people really don't know much about her yet. She's mostly stayed in the shadows as a VP. That could change, for better or worse, when they know her better.

[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

This is a hilarious misreading of polling data. Kamala may not win, but her percentage chance to win might be double or more of what Bidens was.

People I follow were estimating Biden at 10-15% by the time the election rolled around. All the models assume that a candidate would run a normal campaign. Something that he is not capable of doing.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago

The argument that I've seen made is that her approval rating will rise if she becomes the candidate.

I'm not sure how realistic that is, but it's the one that was made.