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Starship troopers was a fascist society where most everybody in the society was cool with it. Like, the basic structure of society is never really questioned much, and for that I find it hard to really call starship troopers particularly fascist in its messaging. The main character isn't fulfilled by becoming a jump marine or an officer, he does both of those things with essentially zero self-reflection. The book makes it a point to show that he makes these big decisions on a whim and doesn't consider them to be particularly consequential. It's essentially a book about a guy that's a part of the machine and isn't particularly bothered by it one way or the other.
Riiiiight at the end we get a tiny bit of "oorah" when his dad shows up, and even then it's mostly just like "nice, welcome to the club, Dad."
Remember, everyone told him signing up for service was a dumb idea, and everyone in the service told him trying to become infantry was a dumb idea. His experiences don't exactly prove them wrong.
wow, looks like somebody else read the book
I read the book. Its absolutely a fascist society.
Yeah, it's basically a fascist society if everyone was down with that, which kinda makes the fascism invisible? Like, it would be very difficult to say that the book was about how great fascism is, because it offers no reason for the reader to consider that a different, but worse, society could exist in this universe.
It would be like saying most books are about about capitalism just because they happen to be set in a capitalist society.
I really want to go off on a tangent about Capitalist Realism in books, but it’s so far removed from the original point of anything in this thread.
It's a fascists idea of a fascist society. Or a weird turbo-libertarian's idea of a cool society that is good, which ultimately is just a fascist society.
One must approach Heinlein's writing with the knowledge that he is a hugely illiterate reactionary dork making a complete fool of himself for hundreds of pages at a time.
The book is only interesting because it's embedded in 20th century American society. It is, or was, required reading for us marine corps officers.
I'm so sorry you were forced to read an extremely mediocre book. They truly do not care about the welfare of our Marines.
Who is they? We certainly don't care about the welfare of our marines. May they join their comrades in Davy Jones embrace, and soon.