threeduck

The fact people are greedy is not the reason pure socialism/communism fails, there's a multitude of reasons it simply doesn't work well: a lack of market forces upending resource allocation, incentive problems, lack of consumer sovereignty, reduced innovation++

Best system IMO is a fusion model, publically owned industries where it matters (health, education, PT), and private where it doesn't (goods, foods etc).

The "not developed until 25" is a myth. The famous study looking at frontal lobe development had age brackets up to 25 years old, non-scientific people took that to mean "that must be where the brain stops developing".

Later research shows it continuously develops.

If you could voluntarily STOP your taxes going to these wars, you would, right? That's what I'm doing when I stop buying meat, literally stopping the sale of meat.

But hey, good luck with your preaching for mass suicide I guess. I'll keep being based here on earth while you waste yourself.

I'm guessing this is your alt account huh. Because your last one got banned? Still speaking with the same monosyllabic single sentence "no-u" I see.

That's relative privation - appeal to worse problems. It incorrectly assumes that we can or should only care about the current worst suffering and that moral concern is zero sum.

There's very little I can do to end the wars in Ukraine, Gaza, Iran etc. But I am directly funding and maintaining the meat industry every time I buy meat.

Also don't kill yourself, that's cringe. Be based, fight on.

Well that person is literally helping you sleep at night by reducing the planets GHG emissions. You're welcome I guess?

Yeah currently the difference doesn't amount to much because we're still eating livestock, BUT if we stopped eating that livestock, we could return to a more natural Australia where shooting our national animals isn't a requirement.

As I said, you're right, eating roos is definitely better, but your argument is an appeal to futility, "I won't be able to convince everyone to stop eating meat, so I'll continue doing moral failures". You could use that argument to continue all horrible injustices, right? "I won't be able to convince everyone to vote for Labor, so I'll vote Liberal as well".

It's much MUCH easier to convince people to drop meat when you've done it yourself, I've converted 5 of my friends over the course of my 6 years, two of which are from rural NZ.

Hahaha why do people just spout complete bullshit like they know anything.

A Poore and Nemeck 2008 meta-analysis covering 38,000 farms in 119 countries found that food systems contribute 26% of the planets GHG emissions, of which ~57% comes from animal ag. Meaning this study found ~15% of the entire planets GHG comes from animal ag.

Don't forget, 70% of the food we grow is fed directly to farm animals instead of humans.

Stop spewing bullshit and look up the data?

Eating planet based obviously != Virtue signalling unless you publically mention it, so there's that issue solved for you.

But what a lazy and incurious way to live, "I will continue perpetuation moral atrocities while contributing to the destruction of the planet unless daddy government tells me to stop".

Damn and they call vegans "pussies".

Why would the industry continue if no one was eating the meat? What a peculiar argument...

A Poorer & Nemecek meta-analysis (2008) found that beef uses 20x more land and produces 10-20x more GHG than alternative meat (like impossible meat or classic fake meat at the supermarket). Lean beef is 26g of protein, plant meat is 25g (plant meat does have half the kilokalories)

I did the research for you! All I ask is that you forever go vegan forever thank you (or maybe just try impossible mince in your spag bol next time, either or)