[-] oxomoxo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Read my many other replies. That’s not my point, not what I am saying. Maybe I said it poorly but I am saying that people don’t bother to learn about the people they are so offended for.

People are screaming racist about a guy who does this for over a decade as a living. This is a Tuesday for this guy, nothing new, nothing shocking. It’s like being offended that a butcher kills animals, it’s in the name, he tears people down for money.

The republican party does this shit daily, this isn’t even the worst thing that group has done this week. The difference is this comedian is paid to make this shit up while everyone else actually means it.

What I have a problem with is people being offended on behalf of the people of Puerto Rico, because it smells of fake virtue. Like when people are offended at school shootings but nothing changes. Because PR has been suffering for a century and no one in the US cares or even bothers to learn the fundamentals of their culture, like for instance that Puerto Rican is a nationality, not a race. A huge amount of Americans don’t even realize it’s a part of US and that they are citizens.

Yet a mediocre roast comic makes some inappropriate jokes and now it’s time to pay attention to PR. I don’t buy it, a month from now no one will remember and PR will continue to be the bastard step-child of the US.

[-] oxomoxo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To give more information, the word country is a generic term for Sovereign State.

Here is a list of Sovereign States. Which you will not find Puerto Rico listed as it own Sovereign State but rather it will be listed as an inhabited possession of one of the 13 unincorporated territories of the Sovereign State (country) United States of America.

What makes a country a country is the agreement of surrounding countries that a specific land is a country. No other country on Earth considers Puerto Rico a Sovereign State (country). It also is not considered contested, or controversial. It is globally accepted that Puerto Rico is not a country, nor has it ever been one, as before it's discovery by Spain it was part of early Taino tribes within the Caribbean islands and then forcefully colonized, before being given as a consolation to the United States by Spain in 1898.

[-] oxomoxo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

When a citizen travels from Puerto Rico to Colombia what countries name is on their passport?

[-] oxomoxo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It depends on context, in the case of Puerto Rico it's an unincorporated territory of the United States and is designated as a Commonwealth. Since 1953 due to resolution 748 the United Nations classified PR as non-governing territory of the United States. Technically PR hold both a Nation state and Commonwealth state according to the US federal government, but the Commonwealth or Territory designation takes precedence over the Nation designation. This is simply because the United States Federal government decrees it, which is why the subject is controversial among Boricuas, as many people feel they should succeed from the United States, while others are happy to be a territory or commonwealth of the United States as many have assimilated into American culture.

So on paper Puerto Rico could be considered a country, but in practice, due to the over site and will of the US federal government, Puerto Rico is a unincorporated territory of US citizens, who don't have to pay federal taxes and have no representational within the rest of the United States, they can only effect their own internal governing body.

In many ways this is a travesty, but in other ways Puerto Ricans enjoy the protection of the US, both in defense and travel, as the US passport is very useful throughout the world, as well as economically due to the strength and stability of the dollar, without being constantly subjected to federal law.

[-] oxomoxo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Sorry to wake you, it's okay just go back to sleep.

[-] oxomoxo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

What seems like trolling to me is pretending to care about racism when all you're really doing is jumping into a human centipede of unoriginal ideas that make the problem worse. Why does anyone actually care what a comedian says at a political rally. This is the 10th worst thing these people have said this week.

This country doesn't give a fuck about the Puerto Ricans, they show it with the policies, their business practices, their racist subjugation and disregard for their culture. But yeah the dude who makes joke to tear people down is the problem. Do I need to also tell you that white supremacists are also invited to proud boys rally, that's waters wet and fires hot. Big fucking shock this whole thing is.

This whole thread is people just saying stuff so that the other people will agree with them and wait for validation. It's a travesty of modern human adaptation and it's going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.

[-] oxomoxo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not at all what I am saying. I am saying that this guy does this for a living. Look up the guys comedy, it's literally his whole career, not something that just popped up yesterday. It's not the first time he's been called out for it, and it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that he says stuff like this. He says it about literally everyone, to include minorities. He tears people down and makes fun of people for a profession. Why is what this guy said at some bullshit rally important? He says this stuff all over the world, most days of the week. Stop giving this guy attention, he only gets more fans and more tickets sold. Going on the internet and being offended is making the problem worse. I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

[-] oxomoxo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Again, not the point, and not what I think. I am not saying there aren't repercussions to saying words. I am saying giving this whole thing attention does nothing but just feed into the game. The more people talk about this the more these people are relevant. The engine of the right wing conservative party in the US is about the fear that they are becoming irrelevant and they are losing power. By paying attention your giving them power. Stop contributing to it.

If you care about the people of PR then vote for people who support PR, which is the best you can do other than attempt to educate people on the mistreatment of their people and what colonization does to the disenfranchised. It's a national problem, not a party problem, and especially not some irrelevant shock comedians problem.

[-] oxomoxo@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago

How is starting a conversation about actual Puerto Ricans, to divert attention away from a bullshit political rally racist? You seem to have missed my point completely. I am calling out people for giving attention to this hack comedian instead of the actual problems the Borinqueños face every day. I don't think the majority of the people here who are so appalled at this non-sense actually care about the people of Puerto Rico. They just want to 'thoughts and prayers' their way to end supposed racism.

Instead of spreading more hate for things that don't really matter. I would encourage you to learn about the people of all the colonized territories of the US. Name calling isn't helping anyone.

[-] oxomoxo@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

I actually think the joke is about tearing people down, and could be applied to anyone. I mean that is this whole comedians shtick. Many people from Kansas and the south are called 'white trash', as a joke. You can certainly place whatever judgement you want on people but I still think it's ignorant and missing the point.

You don't know anything about the people you are offended for. Case in point, don't ever tell a Borinqueños that their nationality is American. While they are legally American citizens they most often identify as Puerto Rican first. They had no choice in their American assimilation just like the Hawaiians, Samoans or the Chamorros. They were all colonized and still mistreated by the US today.

[-] oxomoxo@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago

missing the point. learn about the actual people if you care so much. The word racist has been overused sooo much it has lost all relevance. It doesn't fucking matter, some idiot on some roll call of some political shitshow means nothing, actual action that could be done today for the people of PR matter.

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