[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

incorrect, Im a socialist. she just doesn't know how to be effective at getting the change we all desire; and I doubt she'll be good as a president. shes hurt and angry and lashing out. she should run locally for a governor position and prove she knows how to develop and build worker run cooperatives before trying her hand at the national stage.

the first step is following khan by breaking non-competes, then provide support and resources for worker run organizations.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 hours ago

Yes, and most of her funding is coming from known individuals who want exactly the opposite of what I want (khan, healthcare reform, decriminalization). trust is not a commodity to freely give to politicians and she sure as hell hasnt earned it historically or through a primary.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

literally every single one she listed.... she's certainly not a unifying figure that socialism needs. she isnt dog whistling shes full throat fog horning and poorly.

The 100 largest corporations in America should be seized from their billionaire owners and turned into public property.

good luck. that'll take years and won't fly for a lot of people. nor will it fix the problem. all its doing is triggering an immediate immune response from the unthinking masses. Nor does it address daily issues working american's are experiencing. I understand what shes going for, but she doesn't know how to accomplish it effectively.

Overthrow the Dictatorship of the Rich — Build a Democracy That Serves the Working Class

sigh... same problem as above. removing the FBI and NSA will have little to no material impact on working americans.

End the Rule of Money and Lock Up the Corrupt Elite

yeah okay. again get what shes going for but non of that can be accomplished without a supportive congress. What to over throw the system? great I'm right there with you. but have an actual workable plan.

End All U.S. Aid to Apartheid Israel. End the Genocide and Free Palestine & Cut the Military Budget by 90% — Peace, Not War with China & Russia!

sigh. so completely cripple our economy, and trade one relatively friendly genocidal country for two unfriendly genocidal countries. sounds like a great plan.

End the war on black america.

sigh reparations, i get it i really do. but its just another aspect of the race war and sadly black americans are not yet populous enough to pull it off. could just as easily have said 'build a social safety net to support working americans'

Defend Women's rights, full equality for lgbtq people

again great cause, but lacks the acume to identify the levers to pull to make it a reality.

Save the planet from capitalism

sigh. again just isolating herself from many american's who believe in capitalism.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 4 hours ago

na you just dont know how to relax and have a good time in an environment you don't enjoy. clearly trump does. the guy is a danger to the country but this isn't a thing we need to waste our time on, just makes you look like a incredibly maladjusted person.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

The dude sucks at dancing like most maladjusted white men. i dont see an issue here out side of his rampant racism and fascism. we can do better.

Honestly? I'd be more likely to attend a political rally if they had more dancing and less pomp.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Thankfully you can write whatever name you wish in that box. feel free to exercise your right to remain uncommitted.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

narrator: and then, under harris, it continued to get worse.

biden admin is about to cause an regional outbreak of war. causing our friends and family to be pulled into it. all because he wouldn't redirect a few boats to ukraine. I have 0 interest in trump but harris needs to pull her head out of her ass and commit to enforcing the leahy law w/ israel.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

My god, you're a patient saint. 🙇

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago

Guess I'm an idiot then. 🤷 I think I can live with that label. its unfortunate harris couldn't find her moral spine when it mattered but here we are.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago

False dichotomy and incorrect question. It doesn't matter who wins the next presidency. the general outcomes will be the same.

will both candidates break strikes when convenient to their corporate overlords? yes. will both candidates continue to drain our economy by not reforming health care/holding corporations accountable? yes. (as demonstrated by harris' unwillingness to commit to keeping khan) will both candidates continue to support israel wholeheartedly? yes.

the only different is the speed of the decline. frankly I'm done emotionally suffering because the national democrats are shit people. you're welcome to your positions and beliefs I just have no interest in supporting them when all they do is cause more harm to my communities. I also live in a blue bastion, harris' will win here regardless of my actions and my local government will more or less prevent the worst of trumps nonsense for my community.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago

context matters. you have no idea what state many people live in. I, for example, live in a reliably blue stronghold. harris will win no matter how I vote. so I don't vote for democrats when when there is a better option on the ballot.

There is no value in voting for a party that doesn't support my values/interests. I personally don't like many of de la cruz's policies, they are poorly constructed, however I think she likely has a better moral compass and backbone than harris does. I'm giving harris until the end of the week to fix her positions on khan and ideally irsael, but i doubt she will so she wont be getting my vote.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

In other words, people voting for 3rd party or Trump over this issue are morons

incorrect you're missing context of reliably blue states. I most certainly dont need to vote for democrats and can essentially do what I want w/ respect to the presidential ticket.

All the nonsense from the liberal idiots in the democratic party miss this critical contextual bit of information. I happily vote 3rd party whenever there is one that aligns more closely with my goals. its just rare one does; because it simply doesn't matter in my state for the outcome.

My ballot typically goes:

  • 3rd party for pres
  • dem/independents for most local positions

all this blue no matter who are just brain dead lunacy by the party is essentially: The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final and most essential command.

Hopefully some day we'll be able to have reasonable conversations about the toxicity of the democratic party but we just are not there yet and unfortunately the Ukrainians and Palestinians are paying the price in blood and harris doesnt have the backbone to challenge her corporate owners. Biden lost my support when he broke the train union strike. I believe he and harris would have broken the port workers strike as well if it wasn't a month before the election.

things that prevent me from voting for harris:

  • wont enforce the leahy laws with israel. israel absolutely does have a right to defend itself, it doesn't have a right to be supported by the US tax payers. if the MIC wants money there is a far more moral war going on we can increase support for. (HUGE red flag)
  • wont commit to keeping Ms khan. (HUGE red flag)
  • i don't trust her w/ respect to union support. I believe she'll break unions just like biden did. which is why he lost my support.
  • her continuous attempts to gaslight the american people over biden's mental decline makes her untrustworthy as an individual.

until then I'll continue advocating for and campaigning for election reform and primarying useless democrats. She could probably swing my vote if she commits to khan and never breaking a strike as those are important to the health of our country and economy but at this point its clear she wont shift.

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