commiewolf

Great, just jump to baselessly calling it racism when I point out clear concerns about the Indian left, all without addressing any of my points. You don't know the first thing about me, I'm not a westerner, an "Orientalist", or anything of the sort. I'm an internationalist Marxist from the global South who expects more from India and Indians as a global South country. And am appalled and frustrated at the backsliding towards fascism that the country has been going through for decades. If you are an Indian (which there's nothing wrong with being, JFC), you shouldn't assume the entire world is out to discriminate against you at the slightest implication that your genocide supporting, fascist government is not receiving anywhere near enough principled opposition, especially because of its complicity.

You are Turk, Dominican, and a dear American? Is it true that you need to fill out your "race" on various forms over there? If so what do you say yours is when they ask?

1. Because older people, (and not just exclusive to the west), are usually tired, disillusioned, and often more reactionary compared to younger people. Making them unlikely to take part in strike action or demonstrations. Look at the Palestine action around the world and it is most apparent. Millennials, Gen Z etc. are the ones who have the most to gain from socialism and the most to lose from the current trajectory of global capitalism, and are the overwhelmingly more likely group to be radicalized.

However in India this is somehow upside down. This has a disturbing implication that the older people are the LESS reactionary group, which means that in a few decades, India will be MORE fascist once they die out.

2. I am no expert, but I am simply speaking as an outsider who occasionally keeps up with news about Indian socialism, particularly the Naxal revolution etc. which incidentally does have a lot of youth involvement compared to these other actions, but they are being crushed and dealt several setbacks in just the past months by the Indian government.

As for the youth action you have listed, comparatively this is still shockingly little. I have yet to see anything on the level of even US and EU student protests against the genocide in Gaza, when India is arguably the second biggest ally to Israel after the US. That alone is so deeply troubling.

Damn, you are a Turk, as well a dear American? Hasan?

It seems quite disappointing that whenever I see pictures of these big marches in India with loads of red banners etc. It's usually older adults and elderly. I've yet to see such action with a sizeable portion of the youth taking part, and that should be concerning. If the older generation is more radical than the youth, the already fascist and insane Indian society really has no hope left.

I get what you mean. Perspective makes it hard sometimes to not compare the third world experience to the grievances of those in the imperial core and not feel a sense of resentment. However, at the end of the day I don't wish hardship on you or anyone.

I will admit I got a quite upset seeing your initial comment due to my own personal experience, and I apologize for coming across so hostile.

But I will maintain that, while your concerns are not unjustified, should you be deported, you will be at worst an annoying car ride/train journey away from seeing your friends again. As well as those places and things you have grown attached to over the years you've been an immigrant, and even your work, as due to the Schengen zone, you could even still do the same job and commute between the countries. And at worst, should you be totally banned from entering for whatever reason, your friends can still take that short ride over and see you.

For many deported people, like myself, especially those sent back to the global south, we are left economically crippled and have to start over with almost nothing, knowing that we will likely NEVER return to the life, people, and everything else we were made to leave behind.

Even thinking about it today, years later, makes me so irrationally upset and depressed, knowing I'll likely never return and see my friends again, due to both the sheer distance, and the sheer economic unlikelihood of such a thing. I guess seeing these kinds of "first world" worries makes me feel a rage at the sheer injustice that I am subjected to, just because of where I happened to be born.

Mate.. you would be deported from Belgium to the Netherlands... thats absolutely nothing. Take it from someone who's actually been deported, you will never know the half of it.

And Al-Jazeera pretends to be pro Palestine while they're just a state propaganda mouthpiece who's main goal is to get Sunni Muslims to believe everything they say about regimes that "Oppress the true faith".

As much as I would like to see it, I don't report posts from them that don't add "Sectarian Reactionary News Media" added in the title. Because unlike the new york times, there are a lot of outlets who, due to their coverage of the genocide, have lulled many people into thinking they are upstanding and should be listened to. Another example for this is just recently we saw middle east spectator reveal themselves to be Anti-LGBT when they commented on Zohran Mamdani's position on pride. Do we now ignore, report, and block every single thing they report on?

It's not the fault of the user who posts it, neither does it break a rule. I take no issue with your discomfort at CPGB being reactionary, I believe so too.

However it is not against the rules (as they are currently, I do think they could be improved) to post something they say, as long as it is not directly endorsing the party or it's reactionary views. I don't see that here.

I recall that this user has in the past made some pretty unhinged comments which suggest mental illness, I worry for their wellbeing.

I think the race brainworms have set in, my dear American friend.

I could say all those things about the BBC, the Guardian, etc

That is the point, you definitely can, and if we followed the rules the way you did, we'd be reporting every post made out of one of their pieces, that's my point. We do not post anything with the assumption that we are uncritically endorsing everything that has ever been said by the source. And if we do so for some and not others, we give legitimacy to the ones we don't try and ban from our discussions. If this is the intended way we follow these rules, I am much more uncomfortable with Al-Jazeera, Middle East eye, New York times and their ilk being seen as totally fair and productive to post articles from than whoever this small UK party member is.