TheSanSabaSongbird

We'll see. There are better ways to communicate that message.

Watching the world burn because you refuse to discard your precious entitled attitudes is not a morally defensible stance in my book.

Keep right on ignoring what I say, and you are guaranteeing the loss of blue-collar voters to everyone's peril.

Also, way to tell us that you don't actually give a shit about working people.

This isn't going to end well.

Fascinating! I am not a "foodie" and had no idea.

Hard disagree. The US wouldn't have to fire a shot or drop a single bomb. All they'd have to do is close all of Texas's borders, shut off its access to the Internet and global finance and then wait about a week. What's Texas going to do? It's not like it's even remotely self-sufficient or that all Texans would be stoked about the idea of secession in the first place.

This is a very different and much more interconnected time than the 1860s.

It's pretty rich that you evidently think lardass middle-aged Texans with guns are in any way nearly as self-sufficient as the Taliban. The US lost in Afghanistan and Vietnam because the opposition in those countries was willing and able to wait out the US. In this hypothetical the opposite would apply; the US would be more than happy to never fire a single shot and to simply isolate Texas from the rest of the world and watch it fall apart as its utterly interdependent economy collapsed.

Oh, so let me get this straight, tens of thousands of lardass Texas militiamen are somehow magically going to be willing to live in tunnels with the most primitive amenities and horrible conditions? Why the fuck would you think that for a moment? These aren't third world peasants who are used to living in extreme privation and are willing to die for their cause no matter what. They're a bunch of out of shape untrained fat body crybabies who wouldn't last a week without easy access to the rest of North America's logistics, financial and power infrastructure.

The US wouldn't have to fire a single shot, they'd just bomb the Texas power stations, shut down all border crossings into and out of the state, shut down all banking so that only a barter economy existed, and within a week or so the entire state would be on its knees begging for relief.

You can't do that in places like Vietnam or Afghanistan where the enemy is totally self-sufficient and is quite happy to wait you out. You really think Texans are going to be able to do that? In what universe? What a joke. You obviously haven't thought this through.

A lot of us just kind of accidentally accumulated various guitars over the years, without ever thinking about it in terms of collecting. I have 6 right now, plus two banjos. I only really play two of them on a regular basis though.

It's probably the same for a lot of gun owners.

I only have one gun that I inherited from my dad. He was a Vietnam combat vet and I think because of his PTSD always liked to have a few guns around the property and in his cars and trucks. My brother has the rest.

Nonsense. It wouldn't even be a fight. Texas isn't self-sufficient; to the contrary its economy and infrastructure are intimately tied into every aspect of the US system. All we'd have to do is take out Texas's shitty power grid, shut down all access to banking, close its borders and everything in the state would grind to a halt within days. At that point we'd just wait it out. What's Texas going to do? Launch a counterattack on the rest of the US? Cut me a husk. You aren't being even remotely realistic.

Also a huge percentage of these meatheads would be unqualified to serve in the US military because so many are lardasses. There's a very good reason why physical fitness is taken so seriously in all of the world's best militaries; it's because actual combat is one of the most physically demanding and exhausting activities there is.

Italian pizza is basically an entirely different dish at this point. It happens. American pizza isn't somehow less valid for having drastically changed from the original thing. It was, after all, brought here by Italian immigrants.

"Oh good! A food snob!" Said no one, ever.

Even so, it's just an objective fact that blocking traffic hurts the working poor far more than it hurts the wealthy and powerful high-status people who wield real power in society. It also, at least in the US, just further alienates blue collar people from the Democratic party and the political left, a demographic that they should own, but are losing and continuing to lose precisely because they are so tone deaf. The right does not block traffic, at least not as a tactic in itself, because they are smart enough to know that it just pisses people off. This difference is diagnostic of why the Democrats are steadily losing support from non-college-educated working people of all races.