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[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Cake Pay should be fine for most gift cards, I don’t think they usually ask for KYC for those.

So perhaps your recent bad experience with Mastercard EUR cards are rather exceptional?

[–] Saki@monero.town 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Thanks for warning. Saw https://monero.town/post/872283 too. Guess Cake Pay may be convenient for those who are fine with KYC. Another option, that Stealths thing is more expensive (higher fees), so basically if you want to buy a gift card here or there, you’ll have to choose between (possible) KYC and higher fees. Or so it seems…

[–] Saki@monero.town 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

According to @azalty@monero.town, Cake Pay works fine if you’re fine with KYC, and otherwise you may just lose your money: https://monero.town/post/872283

If you’re a privacy advocate not fully supporting KYC but want to try this anyway, then try a small amount, because you may lose all your money. Another recent option is more privacy-friendly and KYC-free, but the fees are higher with them.

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago

We know the ability to get Monero will not be essentially affected—after all, this is not the first time, nor the second time, when Monero is delisted. It seems reasonable to admit, though, that ultimately the ability/freedom to spend Monero might be limited if legit (e.g. hosting) companies can’t accept it in the future—directly or indirectly because of MiCA etc. Although, what will happen in such a situation may be seen as an interesting experiment.


Since the posted link is not very Tor-friendly behind CF, similar random links just in case…

Following the announcement, privacy tokens such as Dash (DASH), Monero (XMR), and Zcash (ZEC) witnessed a notable decline of up to 10%

The prices of some of these tokens have headed south shortly after the announcement. XMR is down nearly 3% in the past 24 hours, while ZEC has plunged by 10%

[–] Saki@monero.town 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The concept may be lovely, but the fact is, many people nowadays have been Pavlov’ed to immediately ignore anything weird that says, "Congratulations! You got some money. Visit this URL and input something." As they say, the Cake is a lie…

Monero could be a wonderful gift to a friend of yours if they’re especially interested in privacy (in that case, you might want to talk to them privately, and perhaps recommend a better wallet). Otherwise, it may be kind of like casting pearls before swine…

[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Trocador shows it explicitly whether a specific CEX is no-log or requiting IP logging, which you can choose. This new thing doesn’t have TOS nor Privacy Policy to begin with. Yet as long as you use onion, logging by the front-end is rather irrelevant.

Even if the front-end is not logging anything (which no one can verify), a CEX behind it surely records the tx and retains it as required by laws (some of them might be less than perfectly legal and might not record anything, though that would mean a different kind of risk). Using a CEX is more or less risky, be it Trocador or something else. Some may think that an instant swap by CEX is convenient. Personally I prefer DEX, even though it may be less convenient, even though Monero.town itself has an official affiliate link to Trocador too.

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago

Asia might potentially be a better idea (not Japan or Korea though)

You mean, like Hong Kong, or India, maybe? What do you mean by “not Japan or Korea though”? I’d feel China would be worse. Privacy-focused services tend to be pricey anyway, both in Europe and in the US, and the price comparison is tricky as EUR/USD can move weirdly. If you’re talking about Njalla (Sweden), it’s indeed rather expensive.

Although France seems to be generally anti-cryptography, of course you wouldn’t go to jail just because you use Tails. There was this notorious incident related to French activists & Proton, though. Also, the Netherlands can be scary. They arrested a developer of Tornado Cash, right? Although, those things have nothing to do with VPS!

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago

Thank you so much! These minor details are really helpful :D Happy holidays!

[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It’s true that the EU is getting “difficult”. Ironically, the US (without GDPR) can be better, where the right to anonymous speech is more or less protected (although, of course, US hosting companies in general are not good for that).

IncogNet is a good example, where you can get a domain anonymously, just like from Njalla but the price being much affordable. Not only that, they’ll set up an onion/I2P version for your website for free. (This is not a recommendation, though. DYOR.)

Floki was once famous but, yeah… they’re getting a bit less popular now after the Covid things. It’s not Iceland and Seychelles based; basically it’s a German company, having servers in Iceland, Finland, Romania, and the Netherlands. Iceland was once very popular, but anymore. Using a .is domain now assuming it’s “safer” is a bit yesterday.

Especially, be aware of France: they’re like “you use encryption because you have something to hide, doing something bad.” Also, you might want to avoid EU domains (.fr etc.) in general: check about NIS2, so called “Thick Whois“ to see what this means. For example, you can’t get a .nl anonymous domain anymore (a recent change); a similar trend being expected soon in other EU registrars/resellers i.e. “domain KYC”.

PS: Incognet is based on Fran's (Frantech/BuyVM) in Canada, which has been generally trusted and has some good track record. One might want to consider BuyVM etc. too (Not a recommendation, DYOR).

PPS: Incognet accepts xmr, but you can’t do crypto-related things like mining on their servers. A negative point for some of us.

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Exactly how does you activate it? Ordering itself is kyc-free (and even Tor-friendly?) but you’ll need to show your IP to activate it, of course?

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago

@stealths@monero.town Thanks for clarification!

  1. For example, a user in China can buy a card from you, redeem (activate) it and use it internationally, except they can’t use it in shopping at an online shop China?
  2. A user in Pakistan can not activate it and use it at all, though others can use it for shopping internationally incl. at at online shop in Pakistan.

It that what this means? I assume activation then includes GeoIP? I’m very happy that a few user reviews are positive anyway. You know, some “services/companies” advertising here tend to be a bit sketchy or iffy. Your prepaid card business seems a honest one, at least now! Thanks for joining monero.town :) I hope this can be convenient & fruitful for both users and you 🐱

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Visa International (Just fyi): The supported country list by Stealths and the similar list by Tremendous are slightly different. The differences (if real) might be mostly relevant to Chinese users.

These three are included in Stealths’ list, but not included in Tremendous’ list:

China, Hong Kong (*Taiwan is in both lists), Swaziland

These countries/areas are not inluded in S’s list, but are included in T’s list:

Bosnia and Herzegovina, Burundi, Congo (*Flag of Congo-Brazzaville is shown), Eswatini, Pakistan, Panama, Saint Helena, Saint Pierre and Miquelon

 

Collateral wallet is 2-3 multi-signature wallet but it doesn't have to be Monero. Bitcoin multi-signature is much more tested and very ease to use using Electrum or similar.

Option two on this topic would be to use Monero multi-signature to keep Collateral.

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Saki@monero.town to c/monero@monero.town
 

Somewhat curious, though not like using xmr speculatively.

  • 2023-11-02T15:57 CCS Wallet Incident · Issue #916 · monero-project/meta · GitHub
  • 2023-11-04T00:39 [Moonstone Research] Postmortem of Monero CCS Hack: A Transaction Graph Analysis (Dated Nov 03)
  • 2023-11-05T07:20 [One of the earliest media reports] Monerujo Wallet User Drains Monero’s CCS Wallet: Report - Coin Edition

Some of the media reports are negatively confusing, like saying the Monero network is defective. Date-Time in UTC.

Edit: Moonstone Research -> 2023-11-04T00:39 was based on the server response headers (last-modified). Apparently the blog post was created about 1 hour earlier (the link was posted on Github at 2023-11-03 23:50).

 

These changes radically expand the capability of EU governments to surveil their citizens by ensuring cryptographic keys under government control can be used to intercept encrypted web traffic

This enables the government of any EU member state to issue website certificates for interception and surveillance

https://www.internetsociety.org/resources/doc/2023/qualified-web-authentication-certificates-qwacs-in-eidas/

The browser ecosystem is global, not EU-bounded. Once a mechanism like QWACs is implemented in browsers, it is open to abuse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EIDAS

The proposal would force internet companies to place a backdoor in web browsers to let them perform a man-in-the-middle attack, deceiving users into thinking that they were communicating with a server they requested, when, in fact, they would be communicating directly with the EU government. […] If passed, the EU would be able to hack into any internet-enabled device, reading any sensitive or encrypted contents without the user's knowledge

See also: https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2023/11/2/eu-digital-identity-framework-eidas-another-kind-of-chat-control/

 

Nothing really new for us. Just one of the earliest media reports for the record.

Edit (2023-11-06): Apparently, one of the earliest reports about the incident by general (“outside”) media is, Monerujo Wallet User Drains Monero’s CCS Wallet: Report [blocking Tor: archive.org], at 2023-11-05T07:20+00:00.

It’s interesting to see how general people are looking at this, and relatedly how they are thinking about Monero, although generally what’s written there is nothing new nor helpful for us (often disturbingly inaccurate even). For this reason I posted a few random links to related articles. You can add more and comment on it, if there are anything interesting or especially stupid 😖

 

[Edit 2: Read the admin’s “reasoning” and comments here or see PS below. The clearnet site is up again. The onion versions = 100% up tme for me]

[Edit: As of writing this (2023-11-01) their clearnet server is down, while the onion version is working. Cock.li is exactly like this… Relatively rarely but randomly it’s down. Kind of irresponsible but it’s just like that. Interestingly, though, onion is up and clearnet is down. Usually opposite.]

Onion http://rurcblzhmdk22kttfkel2zduhyu3r6to7knyc7wiorzrx5gw4c3lftad.onion/

Cockbox on kycnot.me - https://kycnot.me/service/cockbox “Too bad it costs $9 to send BTC. Bring Monero.”

(From their webpage)

Cock.li is your go-to solution for professional E-mail and XMPP addresses. Since 2013 cock.li has provided stable E-mail services to an ever-increasing number of users. Cock.li allows registration and usage using Tor and other privacy services (proxies, VPNs) and thanks to continued funding by its users is certain to stay free forever.

Cock.li (aka Cockmail) is a Tor-friendly, privacy-focused, soon-to-be-10-year-old free email provider (IMAP, POP, XMPP, Webmail). Although currently (since around 2021) a new registration is invite-only, the admin @vc now states on their website:

E-mail is a Human Right!

Oppressive governments are using dirty tricks to try and force e-mail providers to require phone numbers or other controlled integrations to register. We will never allow these crimes against our userbase. We will stand up for the right to register for e-mail without being surveilled, and demand this right to be recognized globally. Public registration re-opens on cock.li's 10th birthday, 20 November.

Probably people here know this service pretty well, but some important points:

  • Their email addresses are sometimes blacklisted when you want to use them, because in the past the service was abused by spammers. So this provider may not be suitable for normal users/normal usage. Its “technical scores” may be low too, when checked e.g. via https://internet.nl/mail/ If you think this is sketchy and its name is weird, it is. It’s not for you, so please just ignore it.

  • A cock.li account may be great to have if you want to sign up and use it anonymously always via onion (something you can’t do with Proton or Tutanota), perhaps with PGP. Maybe great to use on Tails OS too.

  • Their service was not very stable in the past. In recent years, it’s been rather stable and very fast even via onion. Pop/Imap via Tor works perfectly. Cock.li onion may load 100 times faster than that of Proton.

  • Custom domains are not supported! Consider Disroot or Tutanota if you need them and would like to pay with Monero.

  • They are one of the earliest v3 onion providers. In contrast, Proton was so slow to migrate from v2 to v3 (even after v2 got obsolete). Cock.li is also one of the oldest mail providers that started accepting BTC and XMR donations. So probably they’re extremely well-funded (you know why).

  • If you use Thunderbird, set up your account manually (its automatic setup probably doesn’t work right).

For more info, visit their webpage. Please DO NOT abuse this based cypherpunk service.


PS. Vincent Canfield (vc@shitposter.club) wrote on September 23, 2023:

Good morning, CISA is now calling cock.li a "Malicious E-mail Domain" and implies this is because it's not "publicly available". So, cock.li will once again open to the public on its 10th birthday, 20 November. #StopRansomware

https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/cybersecurity-advisories/aa23-263a

For those who don't remember, a previous CISA advisory which recommended "service providers strengthen their user validation and verification systems to prohibit misuse of their services" shortly predated cock.li going invite only.

https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/cybersecurity-advisories/aa21-116a

I'm sure if cock.li added phone number verification these joint statements would go away. Everyone sees what's happening, you want to force all providers to link to identities so you can surveil people. Cock.li is never adding that bullshit.

 

While privacy coins promise enhanced anonymity and financial freedom, they also pose challenges […] they often face heightened regulatory scrutiny, with some governments banning or heavily regulating their use.

the very feature that makes them attractive – their privacy – can also be their Achilles’ heel. […] This dual-edged sword might deter potential new adopters and pose reputational risks for those involved in legitimate uses of privacy coins.

Cryptocurrency privacy is vital for ensuring personal liberty and maintaining fungibility, becoming even more crucial as surveillance and data collection grow. […] a balance of innovative privacy technologies and thoughtful regulation is essential

We all know this; not easy.

 

1️⃣ Completely normal photos, such as holiday pictures 🏞️ are considered suspicious.

2️⃣ So our private family photos or the chats and pictures from your sexting yesterday 🍑🍆 also end up on an official table. So we can throw privacy in the bin 🚮

Chances are high that most of your European friends have never heard of chat control. So let them know about the danger and what you think about the chat control proposal.

“The European Commission launched an attack on our civil rights with chat control. I contacted my local MEP to tell him that I oppose the proposal. You can do so too! This Website I found will help you write an e-mail to an MEP using A.I.”

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Saki@monero.town to c/privacy@monero.town
 

exchanges may randomly use this to freeze and block funds from users, claiming these were "flagged" […]. You are left hostage to their arbitrary decision […]. If you choose to sidestep their invasive process, they might just hold onto your funds indefinitely.

The criminals are using stolen identities from companies that gathered them thanks to these very same regulations that were supposed to combat them.

KYC does not protect individuals; rather, it's a threat to our privacy, freedom, security and integrity.

  • For individuals in areas with poor record-keeping, […] homeless or transient, obtaining these documents can be challenging, if not impossible.

PS: Spanish speakers: KYC? NO PARA MÍ

 

Cloudflare-free link for Tor/Tails users: https://web.archive.org/web/20230926042518/https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the-eus-fight-over-scanning-for-child-sex-content/

It would introduce a complex legal architecture reliant on AI tools for detecting images, videos and speech – so-called ‘client-side scanning’ – containing sexual abuse against minors and attempts to groom children.

If the regulation undermines encryption, it risks introducing new vulnerabilities, critics argue. “Who will benefit from the legislation?” Gerkens asked. “Not the children.”

Groups like Thorn use everything they can to put this legislation forward, not just because they feel that this is the way forward to combat child sexual abuse, but also because they have a commercial interest in doing so.

they are self-interested in promoting child exploitation as a problem that happens “online,” and then proposing quick (and profitable) technical solutions as a remedy to what is in reality a deep social and cultural problem. (…) I don’t think governments understand just how expensive and fallible these systems are

the regulation has […] been met with alarm from privacy advocates and tech specialists who say it will unleash a massive new surveillance system and threaten the use of end-to-end encryption, currently the ultimate way to secure digital communications

A Dutch government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said: “The Netherlands has serious concerns with regard to the current proposals to detect unknown CSAM and address grooming, as current technologies lead to a high number of false positives.” “The resulting infringement of fundamental rights is not proportionate.”

 

As enacted, the OSB allows the government to force companies to build technology that can scan regardless of encryption–in other words, build a backdoor.

Paradoxically, U.K. lawmakers have created these new risks in the name of online safety.

The U.K. government has made some recent statements indicating that it actually realizes that getting around end-to-end encryption isn’t compatible with protecting user privacy. But

The problem is, in the U.K. as in the U.S., people do not agree about what type of content is harmful for kids. Putting that decision in the hands of government regulators will lead to politicized censorship decisions.

The OSB will also lead to harmful age-verification systems. This violates fundamental principles about anonymous and simple access

See also: Britain Admits Defeat in Controversial Fight to Break Encryption

 

Windows user who'd like to try Tor + wallet etc.: if this is your first time, it may take like 10-20 minutes, but everything is easy.

Although there may be a easier shortcut (see below), the regular way is like this:

  1. Go to https://www.torproject.org/download/tor/ and get a "Tor Expert Bundle" (get one that says 64 if your CPU is 64-bit). To open this ".tar.gz" file, you may need a tool like 7-zip. (*1)
  2. Open (decompress) it to get a .tar; open (untar) this .tar, and you'll see two folders ("data" and "tor") there. Copy these 2 folders (with everything inside them) to a new folder, created wherever you like.
  3. Open the "tor" folder, and double click on tor.exe. If asked, allow it to run and allow it to make remote connections. A text-based window (console) appears with status messages (read them to see if it's working). That's it. You're now running your own copy of Tor.

Once this is ready, you can optionally Tor-ify any tool that supports proxy (Socks5) server. Go to the "Network" or "Proxy" settings of the tool (e.g. Monero Official GUI), and input the proxy server address "127.0.0.1" (without quotes), port number "9050", and if necessary, select the type of your proxy, "Socks5". Your login name and password (if asked) can be empty or anything random (*2).

(*1) Technically, you're supposed to verify a PGP sig here. For now, let's say if you download a file from (archive.)torproject.org, it should be safe.

(*2) Similarly, you can Tor-ify other tools, e.g. a chat tool, a BitTorrent client. A regular browser can be also Tor-ified but that's a bit tricky and usually unnecessary: for web browsing, using Tor Browser is a good idea.

Official GUI vs. Feather (about Tor)

  • Official GUI: Tor is not used by default. You'll have to do manual settings and run your own copy of Tor, like above.
  • Feather: Tor is used automatically. That's easy. However, according to the docs, Tor is NOT ALWAYS used by default, unless you select "Always over Tor" or you're on Tails, etc. Another potential problem of Feather is, if you automatically use Tor coming with Feather, you might be stuck with an old version of Tor. This is because Tor tends to be updated more often than Feather. A solution is…

The same page states:

Feather releases are bundled with a Tor binary. If the presence of a local Tor daemon on the default port (9050) is not detected, Feather will place the bundled Tor binary in the config folder and run it on port 19450.

This should mean, if Tor is already listening to 9050, then Feather will just use it. So, if you'd like to: Feather + Latest version of Tor = also easy (just like Official GUI + Tor).

Elsewhere I saw some kind of confusion like "Feather does everything via Tor, yet it's fast" "Since Feather does everything via Tor, don't use it on Tails, which is already on Tor" etc. etc. and felt that this should be clarified and the fact should be shared. This confusion about Tails is kind of understandable, though.

A possible shortcut: If you already have Tor Browser, and if you start it, Tor Browser's Tor is listening to 9150 (I think). Thus you should be able to do wallet etc. + Tor 9150 (instead of 9050), if you don't mind always opening Tor Browser. This might feel easier…

 

In a well-intentioned yet dangerous move to fight online fraud, France is on the verge of forcing browsers to create a dystopian technical capability. Article 6 (para II and III) of the SREN [sécuriser et réguler l'espace numérique] Bill would force browser providers to create the means to mandatorily block websites present on a government provided list.

--France’s browser-based website blocking proposal will set a disastrous precedent for the open internet

[Unfortunately one should no longer trust Mozilla itself as much as one did 10 years ago. If you do sign, you might want to use a fake name and a disposable email address.]

This bill is obviously disturbing. It could be that eventually they assume that .onion sites are all suspicious and block them, or something similar might happen, which would be bad news for privacy-oriented users including Monero users, for freedom of thought, and for freedom of speech itself. Note that the EU is going to ban anonymous domains too (in NIS2, Article 28).

For a regular end user, if something like this happens and if the block is domain-name-based, then one quick workaround would be using web.archive.org (or Wayback Classic), or ANONYM ÖFFNEN of metager.de (both work without JS). If this is France-specific, of course a French user could just get a clean browser from a free country too (perhaps LibreWolf or Tor Browser, or even Tails), provided that using a non-government-approved browser is not outlawed.

Mozilla, financially supported by Google, states that Google Safe Browsing is a better solution than SREN, but that too has essentially similar problems and privacy implications; especially Gmail's Enhanced Safe Browsing is yet another real-time tracking (although, those who are using Gmail have no privacy to begin with, anyway).

If it's DNS-level blocking, you can just use a better DNS rather than one provided by your local ISP, or perhaps just use Tor Browser. Even if it's browser-side, as long as it's open-source, technically you're free to modify source code and re-compile it yourself, but that may not be easy even for a programmer, since a browser is complicated, with a lot of dependencies; security- and cryptography-related minor details tend to be extremely subtle (just because it compiles doesn't mean it's safe to use), especially given that Firefox/Thunderbird themselves really love to phone home behind the user's back.

See also: Will Browsers Be Required By Law To Stop You From Visiting Infringing Sites?

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