I too would like to believe that the people working on it are well-intentioned, not scammers. What @moneromaxi pointed out seems to be somewhat different, though. Like, the development may be legit but overpriced. Maybe, maybe not, I’m not sure. One thing I can tell is, in 2011 it was said that Haveno would be released in 2022 and now 2023 is ending (two-whole-year delay). I hope it’s just being delayed!
Maybe ideally this should be decentralized, e.g. with 2 or 3 mirror sites. One could post/edit things using whichever instance, and it’ll be visible on every mirror, etc. Like, fail-safe redundancy?
I see your point. If they get a lot of donations and actually the said software will never be released or is poorly made, that can be said a development scam. On the other hand, if hypothetically UI is outsourced, a price tag like that may be rather usual.
If Haveno is released and actually works well, perhaps people will overlook questionable financial aspects related to development/management. Bisq too might have somewhat shady aspects if you ask how Bisq fees are used and distributed, although the project may not be sustainable if all the devs have to work without getting paid. Also one could question the nature of its native coin BSQ (which is basically just BTC dust, colored and sold high; conceptually it may be a good system, though if you use BSQ, the fact that you’re a Bisq user is trivially visible to everyone).
Ultimately there are two kinds of people in a community like this: philosopher-type idealists (who tend to be disillusioned eventually as reality is obviously not idealistic), and for-profit business-minded persons (who may be able to get rich quick if they make a “smart” move). While idealistic volunteers are respectable, business people are also realistically important as they may provide a lot of useful services. If they “overdo“, there will be of course ethical questions, though… You boldly pointed out something touchy but important; kudos.
IIRC they even fixed a serious bug in Bisq.
I don’t think HD is easier to break than SSD; it’s just that with SSD read-write is faster and thus more convenient/efficient for a full node. You can try; HD should be okay too. If it’s a 64-bit, everything should be fine, tool-wise. For the Raffle thing, chcek https://xmrvsbeast.com/p2pool/
Happiness is not just about money (profitability): trying new things that you’re interested in is purely fun. Perhaps you can learn a lot of things via experiences. Also, this is going to be exciting and fulfilling. When you see the BLOCK FOUND! for the first time, it may be super exciting (even if the reward is just a few cents). Also, when you first send Monero successfully using your own local node, without depending on any remote nodes at all, it doesn’t feel bad. Like, “I’m independent!” “It may be a mini branch, but I am my own bank!” so to speak :) Good luck.
Anything could be a scam and it’s important to always think critically, not blindly believing what others say; but Haveno is not yet publicly available so it couldn’t be a scam nor a non-scam — a non-existing service couldn’t steal your money.
Personally I do hope it’ll be great and convenient, if not perfect, like bisq — we’ll see.
Thanks :) It’s great that nitter.net stopped blocking Tor again! I happened to notice that a while ago too, via c/monerochan https://monero.town/post/901193 - ideally privacy advocates should stop using Twitter itself though…
The most centralized part of the Monero network may be mining (i.e. potential weakness, as a centralized pool is an easy target for “them” to shut down), without which the network wouldn’t work. Ideally, if possible, users may want to consider running p2pool too, not just a full node. Like monerod, p2pool can be a background task, not using full cores, so one can still use their computer like normally, even if it’s not a dedicated box for mining.
Check kycnot.me - popular options include: localmonero; get coins you can get (e.g. bisq) and swap (e.g. trocador) - or you can do both on bisq too (Haveno is coming soon?)
You can try & share your experiences. I’ve never used a non-SSD for a full node, hence no experience-based knowledge about this but it should work. Just don’t expect too much, you may just get a few cents from time to time. Also if your CPU is 32-bit, your options are probably rather limited.
Right. If your computer is powered on anyway, running a node itself is not a big deal as far as electricity is concerned.
@dMartian@monero.town When someone is posting a link to Twitter (X), it’ll be nice if they copy-paste the tweet itself too, so that everyone can safely read it.
CPU should be okay. Mining or not, SSD will get broken eventually. If you have 200 GB now, then running a local node is also an option. Up to you.
Yeah… When I write about Haveno here, I kind of always add “hopefully!“ or “is coming?” (a ?)… I don’t think it’s a scam but…