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[–] Saki@monero.town 5 points 6 days ago (5 children)

They have ignored this request for almost 10 years. https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/935538-accounts-payments/suggestions/33188971-accept-monero-for-payment

Like 3 or 4 years ago, Seth said they might soon accept Monero, but they didn't either. Proton is not too bad, to be sure, but it's been really questionable in various ways too... Better late than never, though.

Cf. elsewhere https://l.opnxng.com/r/Monero/comments/1lmuhfi/proton_to_add_monero_support_with_1000_signatures/

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 1 month ago

I think they will be the first to have both digital ID and CBDC.

Or possibly Israel will be? Or China. Paying/Having cash may become illegal eventually.

[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 month ago

The popularity of privacy increases as there is more and more surveillance, control and censorship by states. Privacy is also being talked about and worked towards in communities of other large networks, e.g. ADA and BCH.

Interestingly, even Zcash (a less used privacy coin) is like +60%/mo (whereas +70%/mo for Monero) against USD. A coincidence? Or a general trend?

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 1 month ago

Ah, AI-generated "cheap" text. That'd explain a lot!

In addition to what you've pointed out (which perhaps many Monero users agree with) such as the paper Monero issue, I'd say that fundamentally CEXes have this conflict of interest: they're supposed to help investors or whatever, help them become rich (as if that's the point). But reality is, often customers' losses are their profits - that's their (casino-like) business. In short, they essentially want you to lose your money. And in the first place, this investment aspect is not even the point of cryptocurrencies.

EU bans in 2027? - that's old news. Already in 2022: there were anonymous accounts ban in Lithuania for example (and the remarks by US Deputy Secretary of the Treasury about "unhosted wallets" too). Basically central entities have always wanted to regulate things centrally, but that's not how cryptos are supposed to work. I think XMR is one of the only few coins, still having this fundamental (admittedly, a bit idealistic) philosophy. Either way XMR is only a few "true" cryptos, actually being used (as opposed to just being traded as investment aka gambling). Because of that, some people, including myself, may tend to feel that Monero is essentially valuable and that the recent price movements are something that could have always happened (though, this unconscious assumption could be misleading too). So maybe... even though what's happening now might have been triggered by some criminals, that may have been just catalysts; the cause of these price actions may be intrinsic - because Monero is valuable, it's being valued. Perhpas a bit too optimistic view, but perhaps not entirely untrue either?

Cryptographically it'd be absurd to share your sec key with CEX ("hosted" wallet). Like 30-year-old PGP/GPG key-escrow debates yet again; or worse, not even escrow, CEX users don't even have their keys. Which feels so absurd. I've never once used CEXes, except I tried no-KYC web swaps a few times (but they too are CEXes, having the same fundamental problems). Obviously pure P2P DEX solutions feel much better and safer, where Alice and Bob are mathematically / trustlessly safe as in atomic swaps or via multisigs. DEXes (e.g. Bisq, Haveno) may be for-profict business too (no free lunch), but that's beside the point. Nevertheless, it's important to realize that everything, including "no-KYC" or "DEX" solutions, may become "sneaky" if not scammy.

[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, most probably. It's crazy, though: they're now saying that: privacy-by-default = bad, no-privacy = good. That's the EU for you?

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 1 month ago (9 children)

That's possible. I happened to see these weird/questionable theories elsewhere, not really convincing:

"There are also rumors that major exchanges are thinking about relisting XMR, which, when combined with Monero's lower liquidity and more concentrated holdings, can lead to major price movements"

"Researchers say part of that growth is due to a shift in the U.S. regulatory tone. The FIT21 crypto bill is picking up steam, and the SEC is taking a step back from labeling privacy coins as securities. This seems to be helping the market out a bit. It looks like the easing of pressure has led to more money flowing back into assets like Monero"

"There is also a lot of excitement about Monero's upcoming FCMP++ upgrade, which is expected later this year."

https://u.today/xmr-explodes-past-350-is-monero-finally-back

"Perhaps ironically, the surge is being fueled by this regulatory purge."

[This may be right.]

"Monero's rise is reactive rather than entirely organic. Fearing censorship, there is a rush toward decentralization."

https://u.today/monero-xmr-surges-with-3900-volume-skyrocketing

[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 month ago

I HATE Reddit with a passion (censorship, bots, using our posts to train their AI and sell it to Google and now CQS which punishes you even for connecting in a non-AML/KYC way ) and wish the entire community would just migrate here or somewhere else.

Yeah, when Monero.town was born, I had hoped and kind of expected that more people were coming here ! Freedom is the core value of Monero ; no surveillance ; no censorship ; no arbitrary freezing or blocking ! It was not entirely Monero.town's fault that that didn’t happen, that more people were not joining, except its Tor blocking was obviously preposterous, a show-stopper.

You can at least try a privacy-front end such as https://redlib.zaggy.nl/r/monero/ :) Looks like Reto isn't working very well now...

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Introducing oniux: Kernel-level Tor isolation for any Linux app (pzhdfe7jraknpj2qgu5cz2u3i4deuyfwmonvzu5i3nyw4t4bmg7o5pad.onion)
 

You may have also heard of a tool with a similar goal, known as torsocks, which works by overwriting all network-related libc functions in a way to route traffic over a SOCKS proxy offered by Tor. While this approach is a bit more cross-platform, it has the notable downside that applications making system calls not through a dynamically linked libc, either with malicious intent or not, will leak data.

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Try not to take things too personally. Tails devs explicitly said they were making it for regular people (activists, journalists, domestic violence victims, etc.) and mainly not for advanced users. So by design it's a normie-friendly OS (a user is not even expected to know how to use pgp); as such, one might generally assume its users may not be "geeks". Nothing personal there.

While asking questions and exchanging ideas are wonderful, one can also enjoy the freedom to study (one of the four essential freedoms), guessing, narrowing down a problem by trial and error. An attempt at solving the problem on one's own is often of great value, a great way to learn, even if it's unsuccessful; after that, one might be able to ask an even better question, which could be helpful for more people too. Either way, I think that most Monero users can happily agree with each other that we want a better version of bisq :) (Sorry if this comment is uncalled for.)

Maybe this is why no one ever posts here.

Imho (quite) a few users ditched monero.town when they had started blocking Tor.

[–] Saki@monero.town 3 points 1 year ago

For those who are still on Win 7: Firefox (and so Tor Browser) will stop supporting Win 7 soon. Seriously, you better plan to migrate to Linux. Not-so-good privacy issues aside, everyone knows Windows is not very secure/safe/convenient anyway.

[–] Saki@monero.town 5 points 1 year ago

Generally, votes are overrated. Especially if you’re not mainstream, by definition most people won’t support you, won’t agree with you, won’t understand you.

Some things may be downvoted because they’re too stupid. But occasionally, you might be downvoted simply because you’re a bit too early. Like, if you’d said “being gay is not crime” or something 50 years ago, you might have got downvoted… Just a thought.

[–] Saki@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe what you’re thinking is like an XMR version of Bisq's “Get your first BTC” room?

https://bisq.wiki/Getting_your_first_BTC This dilemma is real and understandable, while it’s not clear what would be the best solution:

For new users, Bisq requires between 0.002 and 0.007 BTC for traders to make their first trade: [...] It can be difficult for new bitcoiners to acquire their first coins, so this requirement is often a barrier for new Bisq users. The Get your first BTC room offers one possible way to get this initial bitcoin without signing up for a centralized exchange.

Basically the same thing for Haveno, I guess.

 

“It is completely absurd to inflict mass surveillance on the general public under the premise of fighting theft.”

It comes at a cost to the privacy and civil liberties of the people of Britain.

[–] Saki@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another bad experience related to Mastercard: https://monero.town/post/1791576

 

The right time to start protecting your digital privacy is before your trip […] The simplest and most reliable precaution against border searches is to reduce the amount of information that you carry across the border.

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Sometimes law enforcement officials achieve so-called “consent” by being vague […] You can try to dispel this ambiguity by inquiring whether border agents are asking you or ordering you […] If an agent says it is a request only, you might politely but firmly decline to comply with the request.

If you are a U.S. citizen, border agents cannot stop you from entering the country, even if you refuse to unlock your device, provide your device password, or disclose your social media information. However, agents may escalate the encounter if you refuse.

If you elect to comply with a border agent’s order to unlock your device, provide your password, or disclose your social media information, you can inform the agent that you are complying under protest and that you do not consent.


It is possible that if you unlock your device, and agents then search your device, a court will rule that you consented to the search. […] As noted in Part 1, the best way to avoid an inadvertent “consent” to search is to decline to unlock your device, provide the device password, or provide any social media information.

Technically, you don’t even need to admit that you know the password.

If you believe that border agents violated your digital rights at the border, please contact EFF at borders@eff.org.


See also:

 

The fact that the issue was discovered by Google TAG suggests it was exploited by a nation-state actor or by a surveillance firm.

As usual, Google did not publish details about the attacks exploiting the flaw in the wild.

See also: https://www.cert.europa.eu/publications/security-advisories/2023-100/

This vulnerability also affects Chromium-based web browser such as Microsoft Edge [3], Brave, Opera, and Vivaldi.

 

“Some Hackers have figured out there is no quick and easy way for a company that receives one of these EDRs (emergency data request) to know whether it is legitimate,” he said.

“The hackers will send a fake emergency data request along with an attestation that innocent people will likely suffer greatly or die unless the requested data is provided immediately.”

 

How FinCEN May Be Violating Your Rights
A call to action against FINCEN proposal 2023-0016A
Written By Preston Pysh

Eroding Anonymity Through Additional Verification: The mandate for “Additional Customer Identity Verification Measures for Transactions Involving Unhosted Wallets” is a direct affront to privacy and anonymity. This requirement transgresses on the First Amendment’s sanctuary for anonymous speech

A Direct Assault on Anonymity-Enhanced Currencies: The “Prohibition on the Use of Anonymity-Enhanced Convertible Virtual Currencies (AECVC)” is nothing short of a legislative bulldozer through the edifice of privacy.

See also: Preston Pysh says proposed FinCEN crypto rules violate US Constitution

 

Bis zum Jahr 2030 will die EU allen Bürger:innen eine „European Digital Identity Wallet“ (ID-Wallet) zur Verfügung stellen. Sie soll on- wie offline bei Verwaltungsgängen und Bankgeschäften, aber auch bei Arztbesuchen, Alterskontrollen oder beim Internetshopping zum Einsatz kommen.

(By 2030, the EU wants to provide all citizens with a “European Digital Identity Wallet” (ID wallet). It is intended to be used online and offline for administrative procedures and banking as well as medical visits, age verification, and internet shopping.)

The article (in German) is mostly about eIDAS 45
Cf. https://monero.town/post/1018961 Last Chance to fix eIDAS: Secret EU law threatens Internet security

(There are many English articles about it; see e.g.
https://mullvad.net/en/blog/eu-digital-identity-framework-eidas-another-kind-of-chat-control )

Though not the main topic of the article, this “ID wallet” thing sounds disturbing. (EU politicians calls a normal wallet “unhosted wallet” and don’t like it very much.)

 

EDIT: Don’t take this too seriously; do not actually send a donation (unless you really want to, like admiring “Nice photoshopping!” “Thanks for the fun pic”). While it’s entertaining and thought-provoking, using their work this way is ethically questionable too. As @z0rg0n pointed out, one could even see this as a scam. Although it’s a fine work and freedom of expression is more important, this may more properly belong to “Memes”.


EDIT2: This post and “cool if real” by @alphonse https://monero.town/post/1122495 were created almost at the same time. That was a coincidental post conflict; @alphonse’s post was actually earlier by about 1 hour!


Is someone crowdfunding a Monero ad in India’s economic newspaper?

Interestingly, a Monero ad could be circulating in India’s traditional English newspaper: The Economic Times. The pseudonymous Stoic, author of “The Monero Standard,” shared a picture of the newspaper’s November 16th edition. In the picture, it is possible to see the paper’s opened front page with a large ad about XMR.

“Monero transactions respect your privacy. Can you say that about the INDIAN RUPEE or the U.S. DOLLAR?”

Moreover, the image also includes a QR-Code for donations in “XMR only,” which suggests its owner is expecting to crowdfund what was spent for this supposed insertion.

 

A storefront, said Ortis, is a fake business or entity, either online or bricks-and-mortar, set up by police or intelligence agencies.

The plan, he said, was to have criminals use the storefront — an online end-to-end encryption service called Tutanota — to allow authorities to collect intelligence about them.

Tutanota (now Tuta) denies this: https://tuta.com/blog/tutanota-not-a-honeypot

 

the onchain activities of the attackers were monitored and […] action was taken to freeze the wallets held by the attackers by working with other cryptocurrency exchanges

a member of the cryptocurrency community questioned how Binance could freeze these funds despite the fact that cryptocurrencies are marketed as not being confiscable by third parties

Changpeng Zhao […] said that the whole thing is a matter of balance. […] CZ implied that a solution to events such as theft cannot be found in a system that cannot be completely frozen.

CZ stated that if users use privacy coins such as Monero (XMR), such freezes will not occur, but the stolen funds cannot be returned.

Cf.

PS. See also: Bitcoin can be traced, If you use XMR, then there isn’t much anyone can do https://monero.town/post/1069626

 

regulatory scrutiny is shifting towards privacy coins […] Understanding how they will be implemented in systems that are decentralized, where the developers and maintainers often maintain anonymity, is complex.

E.g. Bisq, Haveno

compliance with these regulations becomes a paradox for such projects since the crux of privacy coins lies in their ability to mask transaction details, which inherently contradicts the essence of regulations […] Therefore, achieving full regulatory compliance for privacy coins may sometimes seem impossible. […] in the UK, the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) has been proactive in educating consumers about the risks associated with privacy coins but has not implemented bans or specific regulations concerning them.

in the United States, proposed legislation such as the STABLE Act could further extend the regulatory framework […] it’s plausible that the provisions of the STABLE Act […] could potentially mean that transactions involving privacy coins would need some form of identity verification

A prime example of a regulatory shift impacting privacy coins is the European Union’s Fifth Anti-Money Laundering Directive (5AMLD) […] these platforms are now obliged to implement customer due diligence measures, […] verifying user identities and monitoring transactions for any signs of activity.

Potentially:

  • Alice (unhosted wallet) sends coins to Bob (CEX) -> Alice is also KYCed by the CEX
  • Alice (CEX) sends coins to Bob (unhosted) -> Bob is KYCed too
 

Monero Project admits thieves stole 6-figure sum from a wallet in mystery breach

https://lemmy.world/post/7993453 i.e. https://monero.town/post/1045387

While there are typical comments like crypto=scam “You have to be quite stupid to support crypto in 2023”, there are also replies like these (with which more people seem to agree, unexpectedly):

It’s designed to protect anyone using it - even attackers. That’s the price to pay for having privacy. The alternative is an Orwellian dystopia.

If you’re going to use Luna, FTX, and NFTs as arguments about something like Monero, […] you probably don’t really understand any of them.

It’s a bit odd that such a discussion is more active on a different Lemmy instance than here, but it’s interesting to hear honest opinions of various people about the incident, about Monero. Maybe your views are different from them, from mine. For example, one person states there that while they know exactly what Monaro is, they’re still skeptical.

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