- Yes, they definitely shouldn't have hit that man in the face. Hopefully the cop gets in trouble for it, but it's Florida, so maybe not.
- If the cops ask you to get out of the car, and you sit with your arms folded and ask to speak to a supervisor, you're going to get dragged out of the car and thrown on the ground and get some extra charges. That's what they are allowed to do. My guess is that what preceded that was them asking for his ID (which they're also allowed to do) and him refusing to give it. Generally that's the way things escalate from traffic stop -> broken window -> violent arrest.
I'm not saying he should quit and go home and start watching YouTube videos while the world around him collapses into fascism. I'm saying he should fight.
Lots of federal employees did the "Okay, fire me then" game when Trump demanded various things from them. It still takes time, effort, and organization to fill the roles they left behind. It slows things down. You can sue the administration for their blatantly illegal attempt to remove you. You can show up with a megaphone outside the office, now yelling about how it's a power grab. You can do something other than just going along with it.
This isn't even "just following orders," because he clearly knows it's wrong. But, he's still putting people on cattle cars, because they told him if he didn't, he'd lose his job. THE RIGHT ANSWER IN THAT SITUATION IS, EVEN IF NO OTHER OPTION IS AVAILABLE, TO LOSE YOUR FUCKING JOB.
Dude, watch the video. You're literally doing the "Who are you going to be believe, me or your lying eyes?" thing.
You fucking ass hole.
Sure, people are getting snatched and sent away, to never see their families, maybe never taste freedom again, and in the meantime torture. But if someone wants to remove you from office, all of a sudden it's a problem.
Some say that the Black Rabbit hates us and wants our destruction. But the truth is — or so they taught me — that he, too, serves Lord Frith and does no more than his appointed task.
Surprisingly enough, the cops are often pretty reasonable about stuff like this. The first step is to interview witnesses who aren't involved, and if they all have pretty much the same story, then it doesn't really matter what the participants in the conflict have to say. If there are no uninvolved witnesses and it's just two people accusing each other of being the problem, they often can't really do anything, because there's no possible way it will hold up in court.
Oooooh! That hadn't even occurred to me. I thought it was just garden variety shitty behavior. I think you're right, though.
I also see the appearance of thelemmy.club (which as far as I can tell is now, whatever it started out as, a full-time conservative troll instance at this point) as interesting there.
Dude, go fuck yourself.
There are entire things in the world that you haven't heard of. I know it's hard to conceive of, but these things happen.
Is your impression that that's what Hamas is accomplishing?
I don't know what the hell else the Gazans could do, no one's helping them and they are dying. But there is a reason Israel was making sure Hamas was getting funding for years and years and supporting them against domestic opposition: Because what they're doing doesn't work, except to provide additional excuses for Israel to keep mowing down villages. If what they were doing worked, Israel wouldn't let them do it.
Correct. The central issue is that "and powerful enough" part, since the US military will go 100% to war with them if they try to do anything about it, and no country wants that, generally speaking.
The correct choice would have been to pressure the American government to do something, but since our whole strategy for doing that was to let the person come to power who is ten times worse than even the horrifying standard of US presidents on this issue, we sorta fucked that whole thing up.
I think you have a skewed understand of what outcome "no peace" will lead to. There is only one, and that's not it, and we're moving towards it pretty quickly at this point.
Dude it is in your citation:
The case law's super clear. You don't get to ask for a supervisor before providing ID, you don't get to argue the grounds for the stop before providing ID. They're not even required to explain why they pulled you over first, although almost all cops will do just because it's a reasonable question. If you want to have a conversation instead of give your ID, they're allowed to ask you to get out of the car. If you want to have a conversation instead of getting out of the car, they're allowed to use force to grab you out of it. Most cops will take at least some time for the argument, it makes their case easier the more clearly it's laid out what happened and the longer the person refuses to ID, but it looks from the bodycam timestamps like there was about 6 minutes of arguing before they broke his window, which is a little shorter than usual but still not like "ID" "no" (smash).
If you want to have a whole separate conversation about what the law should be, that would be fine, but there's a whole genre of YouTube videos where people learn that's not how it works and get arrested for it. Absolutely you should not be giving this as legal advice. It's actually a common feature of that genre that people will while they are being arrested cite what people like you on the internet told them, as where they got their legal knowledge, and sort of ask for a do-over now that they understand that they can actually be arrested because of following that advice. I have never seen the police agree to the do-over.