OpenStars

I am having trouble squaring the various conflicting portions of your statement.

Luminous had also posted the FHF icon with a swastika on top to YPTB

Because the Zionists currently taking potshots at the testicles of Palestinian boys for ethnic cleansing purposes are the very people Luminous was wishing death upon in reality, not Mr Kaplan.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I would expect very few of the testicle potshotters to be using the FHF icon?

You are trying to put words into the mouth of Luminous that they never said - they very clearly levied accusations against specifically the FHF, and as the picture that Rimu showed, specifically named MrKaplan as both a Zionist and a genocide apologist.

Don't forget how Luminous even outright stated that they "preemptively banned" Mr. Kaplan - i.e. not waiting for a specific event but going ahead of any such in order to enact their agenda - which now seems to be what you are claiming that Mr. Kaplan did, but both the data and the very own words of Luminous state clearly how Luminous was the instigator here.

I banned MrKaplan preemptively from !anarchymemes@anarchist.nexus, as I do anyone who displays zionist tendencies. the ban reason was for “zionism, genocide apologia”.

It is no wonder that Mr. Kaplan felt "called out", when Luminous very explicitly did such a calling out!!

But now, throughout this thread, I mostly see people blaming Mr. Kaplan, citing how he went out ahead of any specific event and preemptively enacted an action - yet rarely or only briefly acknowledging the actions of Luminous that lead directly to Mr. Kaplan's response.

i.e. Luminous of AN started a witch hunt, calling Mr. Kaplan a witch, and got defederated in return. Although, if AN truly wants to keep anything that has even remotely touched upon Zionism away from itself, then isn't being defederated from LW a good thing? Or maybe, just maybe, Luminous did not think through the full ramifications of their decision, before they unilaterally took preemptive action against several mods and even admins of other instances?

All PieFed instances automatically translate links to any other instance into one that works on your own instance - where you can vote & respond with your logged-in account. It is a highly requested feature, desired for many many years on Lemmy but so far available exclusively on PieFed (perhaps some future Lemmy software release will catch up).

To get around the automatic translation, instead of just "clicking" the link, copy the link instead and paste that URL into a browser.

PieFed.social's server farm just raised their prices through the roof, so I assume the disabling of ability to access it without a login is related to that. Hopefully a temporary measure.

Most other PieFed instances still allow you to see posts without a login - see e.g. https://piefed.zip/c/yepowertrippinbastards/p/1415029/lw-banned-me-and-defederated-an-over-murder-all-zionists-in-my-display-name.

there are places for that on Lemmy!

Also PieFed, Mbin, nodeBB, and others in the Threadiverse, plus Mastodon, Friendica, etc. in the wider Fediverse.

Whew, at least I am not crazy! 🤣

Strike that, at least that is not just one more reason WHY I am crazy! 🤪

Forbidden fruit...

I accused the “FHF team members of being zionists while simultaneously calling for zionists to be murdered”. but if that were true, then why has MrKaplan not also defederated from lemmy.ml, despite many of their users being just as vocal as I am ?

Oof, this is the part that keeps coming back to haunt every instance across the Threadiverse. The question they raised is: why defederate hexbear.net and Lemmygrad.ml while giving a free pass to lemmy.ml?

There are reasons, though nuance and subtlety seem mostly absent from that YPTB post. When I was growing up, I was taught that my rights ended where someone else's began, i.e. I can do anything I please, but so too can everyone else. Thus e.g. AN can do whatever it wants, yet as a result if other instances choose to defederate from it as a result, then that is their choice. Why one instance should be free to call for murder while another instance should NOT be free to block that kind of talk looks to me to be pure incel behavior: "my idea of a 'compromise' is when the other side does as I say". aka trolling, or leftist MAGA.

The Threadiverse continues to fracture along the lines of "free speech" instances, which constantly call for the rights of other instances to be curtailed, and instances that enjoy moderating only themselves internally, for the sake of their users happiness since some of us actually are not terminally online and always, Always, ALWAYS looking for a fight.

PieFed.zip and Lemmy.zip are large and great recommend instances famous for how few other instances are blocked, and Lemmy.today I believe blocks none at all.

Edit: your current instance has a medium-length blocklist. You can read about individual decisions in the https://sh.itjust.works/c/main community, e.g. Can we consider degenerating from maga.place and hilariouschaos.com? and Is there a way to block hexbear. Note that the decision to defederate from behaw.org is due to the latter defederating from sh.itjust.works, so to avoid confusion among users as to why posts can only be read one-way.

This seems a flawed understanding of the theory though, if the thinking is that in the entirety of the whole world, no instance will ever defederate with any other instance.

On the contrary, this is normal, expected, and healthy behavior. When one instance refuses to consider the needs of the wider community, then those offended by such have the right to cut it off - e.g. hexbear users troll everyone, their admins protect them, so the instance as a whole gets defederated as a result.

Not for the archive link, immediately below the original Verge one. :-P