As I said EU leaders, it's obviously not just Kallas. But really China's simply trying to create a rift with the US and EU. With Trump, they're hoping there's an opening. They don't really care if the EU supports China, they just hope they see the US as toxic. Which is why Wang Yi said China can't let Russia lose because USA will pivot to Asia, they want to make clear that is toxic thinking.
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Well, this puts us well out of the realm of is what China saying evil, it's not it's just telling the EU to choose. And instead into the realm of grand strategy of nations. I would love to continue the conversation, but this will be rife with opinions and wild inaccuracies. I don't agree with what your saying but for me to explain would be long, as well as I can't be sure I am right.
Ok well we are talking in the context of if true then EU should x. Well it's only true if the EU continues to want to confront China. China is simply saying that's up to you
Again, this is in the context of Obama's pivot to Asia. China sees what your saying as excuses and wants the EU to prove their not just following US orders. Which you've said over and over again they won't decouple so China doesn't believe them.
Ok, we were talking about why China said what they said. It's not some evil reason or an excuse to invade Taiwan. It's simply if your going to threaten us as next, then we will support Russia. Whatever reason the EU has to not abandon the raving lunatic in USA is not China's problem.
Using aid as a honey pot to shoot civilians doesn't count
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-announces-funding-gaza-humanitarian-foundation-despite-deaths/
Did you not understand, that's exactly the offer China is giving the EU in this statement. Abandon the US and we can talk about abandoning Russia.
Really? You call a person literally threatening China and now sitting across the table a pacifist? You got a weird definition there buddy. I'll take the side of the country that hasn't been involved in a conflict for over 40 years.
Oh God that's a lot of words that China doesn't care about. If you tell China that China's next after Russia, yeah China's gonna help Russia. Seems obvious. Why should China care why NATO?
Not maybe, Wang Yi literally said we cannot let Russia lose because the US will pivot to China. It's a not subtle way of saying if you guys keep talking about taking out China, we obviously won't help you.