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Thought this required its own post as we might need to create a new community.

I managed to get in contact with the creator of the community (same username on reddit). I don't think he's coming back to lemmy. He's offered to delete the community if that frees up the name for us to create an identical community on lemmy.world. I don't know if that's possible or if the community can be transferred to another user instead.

Staying on lemmy.world seems like a good idea imo as new arrivals will gravitate towards that.

Anyone have any ideas of the best way forward? Anyone fancy being an admin/mod lol?

Edit: He might not be permanently gone. Just coming back every once in a while.

Here's the conversation if anyone is interested.

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[–] seacocker@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Would it make more sense to have a football/soccer instance, like maybe feddit.football? Then take load off the general instance here. Could have all the club communities and ones for world cups etc..

[–] Miro@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With the way Lemmy functions, having a dedicated football/soccer instance should be the right move.

Keep this one open with a redirected pinned post to the new instance/community and lock it.

[–] seacocker@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe soccer.football is better? Anyone fancy hosting?

[–] erre@feddit.win 5 points 1 year ago

I don't know that this community is active enough. Lemmy doesn't even have very many club-specific communities that aren't dead.

[–] kd637_mi@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

This would be the ideal. Star Trek has its own instance, startrek.website, and it's better for it. I'm hoping that more specialised instances attract the more passionate fans for specific interests and the general instances end up more surface/entry level for people curious about whatever subject it might be

[–] LaVacaMariposa@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a great idea! Football is so big that it makes sense that it should have it's own instance. And every club can have it's community.

[–] dimlo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Football maybe big but Lemmy is not big enough to have active users in here, let alone individual clubs or leagues. Too much fragmentation is not good for the current state of Lemmy

[–] tom@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

I'd be tempted to host it, I already host feddit.uk so I know quite a bit about hosting a decently sized lemmy instance. Not sure if it is big enough for an instance yet but if people want it I'd do it

[–] giantshortfacedbear@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly I think that is an excellent idea, and at some point someone (like football365) would probably pay a lot of money to take over it (yaay!). Theres a classic Catch-22 - lemmy doesn't have the critical mass to bother spinning up a dedicated server, but if it's not done now/soon it will be too late. I'd love to help, but don't have time.

That's the beauty of lemmy. Even leagues or clubs could have their own instance.

[–] Mookulator@wirebase.org 1 points 1 year ago

The most comprehensive sports instance I know of is https://fanaticus.social/

Maybe that’s the best place?

[–] MushroomMan89@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hey guys, sorry I've been absent.

Any volunteers to be mods/admins reply here and I'll see if I can get you added.

[–] PoppinKREAM@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can help out if needed, but I only use Lemmy on a third party app so I'm not sure if mod tools are available.

[–] Coelacanth@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll vouch for PoppinKREAM as a fantastic mod candidate for whatever it's worth.

[–] Motecuhzoma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering how active they were on /r/soccer, I think they’re a great choice.

(Assuming it’s not someone else who claimed the username hahaha)

[–] Coelacanth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Unless it's a phenomenal impostor then based on demeanor and posting style I'd say it's the same person.

[–] Sentau@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can volunteer. Though I have never been a mod so don't know what it entails

[–] ArianaGrande@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If you've never been a reddit mod, that's a positive in my book, lol

[–] ArianaGrande@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If you've never been a reddit mod, that's a positive in my book, lol

[–] _Hantypen_@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope we can grow somthing here. Done with Reddit but addicted to football! I dont know if it's possible, but transfering the community to another user definitely sounds like the best option, considering this one already has 3k subscribers.

One thing I loved about r/soccer was the live match day threads. Create them as you’re watching games! Let your addiction work for YOU

[–] FlayOtters@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I kind of feel similar. Keeping the same community seems like the best option.

He's offered to add some mods if that sorts out any issues. Is anyone the mod of another community and knows about mods/admins? Can mods do everything an admin can (besides deleting the community) in case u/MushroomMan89 is away for a while?

[–] skipseagull@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] MushroomMan89@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Added you dude, thanks.

[–] FlayOtters@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks. I've sent a message to u/MushroomMan89 to see if he can add you as a mod.

[–] skipseagull@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Thanks I can now mod so we are good to go. I wont leave this place hanging

[–] ThatOneDudeFromOhio@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Best course of action is to show proof of that conversation to an instance admin. They should be able to help out.

[–] Coelacanth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah admins can transfer ownership of communities. Ruud might be too busy with the servers on fire at the moment though. Ideally we'd have a Community Requests sub like on Lemmy.ml

[–] TanakaAsuka@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I think this is the best approach, rather than starting a new comminity and resetting back to zero again.

[–] spez@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I hope we can have the same rules and posts as in soccer on Reddit. It’s much much better to have a defined way of posting.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would try contacting one of the admins here and explain the situation to them. They should be able to add you as an mod on c/football, if they think that's a good solution. I think @ruud is one of the admins.

You could also ask the mod to add you as a mod. He should be able to click on the three dots of this post and see an option to make you a mod.

Either one of those is better that than having the mod wipe out this community so it can be recreated. That seems kinda crazy.

[–] FlayOtters@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't really have any interest in becoming a mod tbh. After the post from a few days ago, I was just wondering what will happen to the community if there is no one to steer the ship.

If we start getting spam or something we're stuck with it. If the community starts to grow we're stuck just making standard posts without stickied posts, no bot accounts to make regular posts etc.

I can try to help with bots or something but I'm no expert.

[–] Sentau@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Staying on lemmy.world seems like a good idea imo as new arrivals will gravitate towards that

This is not necessary. As long as the instances are federated, a football community on any instance can communicate with users from other instances and thrive. Also assuming that the subscribers here are from a diverse group of major instances, by searching and joining any new community that props up(if at all that action is needed) we will add the community to the search list

[–] FlayOtters@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was keeping an eye with the formula 1 communities the past few weeks. One on lemmy.ml and another on lemmy.world. lemmy.ml was clearly bigger and more active. The end of June came and suddenly everyone started joining lemmy.world as it was open to new registrations and, because they didn't quite understand how the instances work together, lemmy.world/c/formula1 suddenly grew significantly and became the bigger community.

Being on lemmy.world is an advantage just now as new users recognise it when looking for communities.

[–] Sentau@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This to me seems like an issue of educating the people better. Having everything on lemmy.world seems detrimental in the long run, especially for lemmy.world

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 3 points 1 year ago

That's true to some extent, but one community at one instance is always going to end up being the most prominent one in the end regardless, and at least Ruud has experience running large Fediverse instances.

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