"Bernie can win" - me four years ago.
"There is hope for the United States" - me four years ago
The biggest one is just the idea that the climate apocalypse can be meaningfully stopped. Like sorry, no, that window closed probably 20 years ago.
Still, there's a fuckton of investment, organisation, and technology we should be working on to slow change and adapt to a different Earth that would save billions of lives. Sadly we're more busy spending billions on Twitter and luxury cars or whatever.
That's everyone, I even see the same stuff here. No one wants to accept how bad the situation is.
Hillary is light itself was kinda out there.
It would be hard to believably satirise a yes-man of such devotion
The evergreen one in my mind that I got to dunk on the guy for was, "Joe Biden will fix student debt!"
Man I'm not even vegan, but cattle farms in orbit is peak carnist nonsense
"Gay people only exist in the west"
I heard a self professed communist say that BDSM only exists in the west
Every ideology is extremely weird about sex, but it sucks seeing leftists deciding that people's consensual sexual preferences are bad and then dying on that hill. It's so easy to just let people be weird, but so many people want to harass people who enjoy sex differently than they do.
Yup, no shibari bondage or anything like that
We can have fully sustainable cattle farms in orbit producing as much meat as we need
WTF the take is supposed to be that we'll all live in giant self-sufficient skyscrapers that grow made-to-order beef in bioreactors, not animal agriculture in space!
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NATO is a defensive alliance
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Whatever variations on the theme of streamerbros assuring their audience that they don't need to do the reading ("Just watch my streams where I skim Wikipedia and provide a terminally-online westoid hot take instead - you're actually the smart one because you don't even need to read a book; your opinions are always correct by default! Now that you're sufficiently flattered send me a superchat, you filthy little paypiggies!!")
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You can't judge historical figures by today's moral standards (Often used to run defence for slave-owning US politicians oblivious to the fact that there were people, including political philosophers, of the same era who denounced slavery. Also, fuck you, I'm going to judge people by today's moral standards and there's nothing you can do to stop me.)
The "Can't judge history by modern standards" take is asinine because new information frequently alters or outright negates old information. Asbestos was once regarded as safe for use as insulation, for instance, but as time went on it was determined that it caused mesothelioma. As a consequence, asbestos is no longer regarded as safe by most.
It's also a weird sort of historical revisionism because it implicitly assumes that people in the past were one homogeneous blob which all shared in the identical set of moral standards.
Like, at which point in time did everyone unanimously agree upon moral standards again? Remind me.
Not to mention the fact that it's inherently classist and racist; it might have been considered "moral" to incite pogroms against Jewish people in European history but... that's only according to the people who held the most influential positions in politics and philosophy. You can't tell me that the family of Jewish people who had to flee their village because they risked getting lynched were like:
"This is a terrible tragedy that has befallen us and we have lost everything. However it should be noted that, on the other hand, it is entirely morally-justified."
So when people talk about the moral standards of history, they're talking about the moral standards of those who held hegemonic power over society (and that basically means wealthy white men) to the exclusion of everyone else.
North Korea actually doesn't have nukes
After only their first test, which was like a 0.5-2kt yield, I can understand this claim somewhat. They could have faked that as a bluff with lots of conventional explosives. Doesn't make so much sense why they would, but it was a plausible interpretation I guess.
Given that their later tests were something like a hundred times that, it's kinda absurd to still try to make the claim
I think libs think of the DPRK as a project of enormous effort to give the illusion of functionality from the last 3 remaining north koreans.
"Self-driving cars are the key to a post-scarcity future!" (when asked how the fuck that conclusion was drawn, I was told "do the research.")
It's really simple.
Once everyone owns a self-driving car then they will be able to rent out their car as a self-driving taxi to everyone else, thus generating a perpetual cycle of passive income for everyone, at which point we will have achieved a post-scarcity future because everyone will be able to afford everything.
Dumb tankies call themselves materialists and they can't even figure this out themselves smh.
Sometimes I zero in on housing, and NIMBY liberals are their own unique brand of annoying:
"Anyone who's white should move out of cities in blue states and StAy AnD fIgHt in the red states they came from. Wait, what's an invisible minority? Why am I not moving to red states?" Well, ummmm....."
"Stop being entitled and stay in your suburb in the boonies, no one owes you a city life!" (The nanosecond they have something, they start doing the whole bootstraps thing)
"We appreciate that you're trying to save the world, but go save the world somewhere else." an actual quote. They know building more housing is the right thing to do, but they're invested in real estate.
"Just move to Texas/the midwest, bro."
"There's plenty of housing, just please PLEASE live in the boring suburbs in bumfuck nowhere far away from me! Sure, I'll call you redneck trash for doing so, but I need you there so I can have someone to feel superior to!" (not an actual quote, obviously. But this is sort of how they think)
A lot of lib NIMBYism boils down to trying to keep blue cities in blue states as exclusive as possible. Yeah, the dems suck ass, but if I could afford to, I would have fucked off to San Francisco a long time ago.
"Tech will save us."
Also:
"AI is the greatest advancement for democracy."
Heard in the wild from a tech guy a few years ago after Elmo had bought some AI language translation firm and announced it makes "information accessible for all". He was hyped, hyped for it.
A few months ago he told me that AI will destroy the world and spesifically his job.
Haven't asked him how he thinks all this is going recently because can't handle the takes anymore.
"Manchin will vote with democrats on important shit." Lib defending his vote to confirm Kavanaugh
Capitalism is good because people from (list of countries the US has either bombed or sanctioned to shit) envy our poor!
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